The Beginning of White America

By Ian Jobling •  1/19/09
white america emblem
The emblem of our movement.

Today, we launch together a new website, as well as, I hope, a new intellectual and political movement, called White America. It is not necessary to describe our premises and goals at length here as they have been spelled out in Principles of the Pro-White Movement. In brief, our thesis is that American culture is rooted in the biology of the race that created it and that our nation will decline if white people lose control of their land.

White America thus stands for the truths that our age most fears and wishes to suppress. Other articles on this site document in detail the phenomena of race denial and leukophobia, the first of which suppresses the truth that the races are naturally different, and the second of which casts whites as the great villains of history, rather than the bearers of civilization and humanity. The brazenness of the lies that are directed against us, and the hatred inflicted on those who combat them, demonstrate how powerful and terrifying the ideas that we defend are.

White America supersedes and replaces my previous website, The Inverted World. As I explained in From “The Inverted World” to “White America”, I decided to change the title of the website in order to give it a more political tone. Political activism will be a priority of White America—the activism section of the website has not yet been launched, but it will be shortly.

As you will see from the website’s banner and the illustration on this page, I have chosen as the emblem of our movement the image of a kind and noble young lady serenely holding out the flag of our nation. The image comes from an early 20th century greeting card and perfectly expresses the ethos of that era, when almost all Americans held it as self-evident that theirs was a nation for and by white people and that their national character was rooted in their racial nature. When I first viewed this image, I was shaken by an almost unbearable nostalgia. Whatever its faults, that time was a far wiser one than ours, and this emblem will remind us daily of what we have lost and what we must work to restore.

Many will no doubt judge that our movement was obsolete before it even started, founded as it is on ideas that the current age deems pathetically backwards and out of date. And indeed, this website is being launched on a day when our prospects seem very dark. Today we are reminded that the only national holiday that bears the name of an American is Martin Luther King Day. Moreover, tomorrow we will witness the inauguration of America’s first black president. Another irony is that we begin White America a few days after The Atlantic, one of our nation’s most respected magazines, published an article called… The End of White America!

It would seem then that we are too late, that we begin to defend White America at the moment when it has been decisively eclipsed and superseded. We respond that, however despised it may be, the truth is never out of date and delusion can never supersede it. For on matters of race America is beyond deluded—it is in a state of advanced psychosis, and this psychosis threatens to lead our nation into collapse. We stubbornly insist, in the teeth of conventional wisdom, that it is only from our perspective that the errors of our time can be clearly seen and their disastrous consequences be addressed and corrected.

The End of White America” is a sterling example of America’s racial psychosis. Written by Vassar professor of English Hua Hsu, the upshot of the article is that “whiteness has become a vacuum,” and white people are “culturally broke.” Only non-whites have a thriving culture in which they can take pride, and all white Americans can do is look on in envy. As Christian Lander, the creator of the blog Stuff White People Like says,

Pretty much every white person I grew up with wished they’d grown up in, you know, an ethnic home that gave them a second language. White culture is Family Ties and Led Zeppelin and Guns N’ Roses—like, this is white culture. This is all we have.

The views of “whiteness studies” founder Noel Ignatiev have become mainstream today:

There is nothing positive about white identity. As James Baldwin said, “As long as you think you’re white, there’s no hope for you.”

To the extent that whiteness isn’t mere nullity, it is evil or at least obnoxious. White people are acutely conscious of the crimes, real and imaginary, that they have committed in history, such as slavery, segregation, and the Holocaust. To the extreme liberal imagination, other atrocities would also include the Iraq War and global warming. As Lander says,

Like, I’m aware of all the horrible crimes that my demographic has done in the world… And there’s a bunch of white people who are desperate—desperate—to say, “You know what? My skin’s white, but I’m not one of the white people who’s destroying the world.”

Hsu also suggests that our socioeconomic success is due to “white privilege” or pervasive bias in favor of whites in American society. He alludes to “the obvious material advantages that come with being born white—lower infant-mortality rates and easier-to-acquire bank loans, for example.”

The contempt for whiteness is a result of a change in the structure of American culture: “Instead of the long-standing model of assimilation toward a common center, the culture is being remade in the image of white America’s multiethnic, multicolored heirs.” The result is a nation “which prizes diversity above all else, and whose ultimate goal is some vague notion of racial transcendence.” Authenticity therefore requires white people to embrace this decentralization and become “race traitors,” as Ignatiev preached in his journal of that title.

The paradigmatic symbol of whiteness today is, consequently, the “wigger,” who imitates minority rap culture. However, even they do not rise to the level of true coolness: white rappers are, in the end, a “profoundly confused caricature” whose racial identity crisis becomes an “instant punch-line.”

There are some white Americans who adopt a white identity, but, in Hsu’s portrait, there is little that is attractive about it. The alternative to white self-loathing is a backwards, xenophobic, redneck culture, as symbolized by Kid Rock, Larry the Cable Guy, and conspiracy theories about Obama being a closet Muslim. Other examples of white identity are Mormons and picturesque nostalgia for the WASP culture of the past, symbolized by “seersucker blazers, whale pants, and deck shoes.” None of these is likely to inspire.

There is no reason to believe that Hsu’s article is out of line with the commonsensical vision of whiteness in America today. What he says is very much in accord with my articles on the leukophobia that pervades contemporary culture. The current age casts white culture by turns as stultifying, spoiled, rapacious, and backwards. We are the only race that has nothing to recommend it.

This website exists to convince the world that this view, however commonsensical it has become, is entirely inverted. It is an almost inconceivable injustice rooted in a tragic ignorance of history or willful blindness.

The most obscene distortion is the one that makes Larry the Cable Guy the symbol of our people. The world has apparently forgotten Shakespeare was white, Isaac Newton was white, Michelangelo was white. Indeed, nearly all the great innovators in science, technology, art, literature, and philosophy have been white, as Charles Murray demonstrated in Human Accomplishment. Despite the rise of east Asia in the 20th century, white dominance in creativity was as overwhelming as ever. Historian of ideas Peter Watson says of his interviews with 150 thinkers from around the world:

all of them—there were no exceptions—said the same thing. In the 20th century, in the modern world, there were no non-western ideas of note.

Indeed, white people created the whole moral system that condemns them. Today the world blames white Americans for slavery but forgets that whites were the first to formulate the concept of human rights that is the basis of this condemnation. Until the 19th century slavery was a universal practice, and Arabs, Africans, and Asians never realized it might be wrong until white people told them so and pressured them to abolish it.

In his response to Hsu’s article, Steven Sailer makes short work of the idea that whites are privileged. The idea that “easier-to-acquire” bank loans are evidence of white privilege “sounds completely clueless in the wake of the catastrophic 15-year-long campaign by the Clinton and Bush administrations to boost mortgage lending to uncreditworthy minorities.” There is no denying that affirmative action permeates American business, government, and education, and there is also no denying that it is minority privilege. If whites are more successful than blacks and Hispanics then, it is not because the game is rigged in our favor, but because of innate differences among the races in the traits that lead to accomplishment, like intelligence and providence.

Hsu’s failure to appreciate whites’ overwhelming dominance in creativity leads him to poo-poo the theory our demographic and cultural eclipse would lead to civilizational decline. “Civilization is not,” he declares serenely, “in the words Tom Buchanan, ‘going to pieces’ and America is not, in the phrasing of Pat Buchanan, going ‘Third World.’” Is he sure? After all, Hsu’s article was published in the middle of a financial crisis that has prompted respected and sober thinkers to warn of a new Great Depression. The end of white America seems to have coincided with the end of the stock market.

It has now been widely recognized that one of the major, if not the primary, source of the crisis was “affirmative action” mortgage lending, combined America’s increasing diversity. In other words, the darkening of the American population, combined with efforts to bring about socioeconomic equality among the races, is leading to a serious decline in the American standard of living. Furthermore, the global effects of the crisis may well result in serious social and geopolitical unrest. In short, America is indeed beginning to look more like the Third World, and civilization may well be in decline. Although we may disagree with much of what Pat Buchanan and Lothrop Stoddard have written, in this matter they are clearly on to something, and it is foolish to dismiss their ideas out of hand.

Understanding the fallacies that underlie Hsu’s article does not require great intelligence or any other special ability. Rather, all that is needed is the courage to recognize the obvious and the self-respect to defend oneself against slander. No matter how dark our prospects may seem, there are, consequently, good reasons to begin White America with optimism and confidence. After all, how long can white Americans remain blind to the obvious and deaf to slander? Not long, I think, especially when the disastrous effects of our racial psychosis grow more apparent every day.


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Comments

Great article. Pass it on to Mr Hsu.

http://www.vassar.edu/contact.html?n=Hua Hsu&e=huhsu

By on 1/19/09 at 7:44 pm

Congratulations on your new web site! I enjoyed the article and keep up the good work. We white people need it.

Angry White Dude

By on 1/19/09 at 7:58 pm

If Hsu needs convincing that the US is indeed “going third world,” there are many neighborhoods outside of Poughkeepsie, including some a short drive from where I’m sitting, that would do the trick. Just a few short miles from here one can see a third-world levels of crime, degeneracy and general squalor unthinkable virtually anywhere in the country a couple of decades ago (apart from black slums, at least).

By Cassiodoruson 1/19/09 at 8:15 pm

Great article! Hopefully there will be a day when this site can reach the White mainstream.

By EA Steveon 1/19/09 at 8:47 pm

The “Bore” is the messanger who is killed for bringing the bad news:

despite your pretensions to be a new, “racism lite” that gathers up other former libs in its embrace, you are light years from squaring the circle - or forging a real movement instead of a…. well, actually a website(or even several) for a coterie of people who like to chat about their frustrations.

squaring the circle would mean stimulating euro pride without just alienating the majority of whites, who are used to living in a multiethnic society and know that the clock can’t be turned back to 1810 - minus the blacks (Lincoln’s Panama plan??)

Conceptually, strategically, tactically, , there is no white movement in America, just a handful of pissed of bloggers.

You know as well as I that 99,9999999% of white supremacists are the guys who would would cheerfully bash fags like Michelangelo or Shakespeare(or T Williams or A Copland or Leonardo or Nureyev or….) if they met him on the street.

And that most don’t actually know who any of these guys are.

But there is euro pride sentiment to be tapped into by someone who actually knows what they are doing.

You are actively avoiding the mainstream. That’s why your hilarious “emblem” above is such a total cringe - it is designed to appeal to precisely 0.0000000000001 % of white americans.

A real movement would lose the “white” and focus on very specific and doable tasks with mass appeal like emigration, school curricumum, quotas.

The Bore is bored by all this huffing and puffing and wants something of greater intellectual and practical substance.

I will focus now on the European movement against the Islamization of Europe - which is my home these days anyway.

By elitiston 1/20/09 at 5:04 am

Ps. You people remind me of the communists in the 70s: tiny as they might be in numbers, they continued to splinter down into grouplets small enough to squeeze around a dinner table – where they would argue over doctrine late into the night…

So with the “Whites” as well: pro and con Israel, anti semitic or not, homophobic or not, Darwinophobic or not, defenders of slaver/colonialism/Jim Crow/etc. as glorious civilizing institutions….

Helpful hint: You know you are really lost on the other side of the mirror when you stop listening to the “bores”….

By elitiston 1/20/09 at 5:17 am

The point of having the word White in the name of the movement is precisely to stop being reduced to a cheer leader for own extinction. When the goal is equality or freedom, the result is just being a me too cheer leader to non-whites displacing whites.

If we want white survival we have to say so. That means we need a movement that has it in its name. We don’t want PC me too’s like Bush and McCain to come and shut down the real discussion.

How can censoring what we want to say move us anywhere? We want to say that we have a right to survive. That’s what moves us. We want to say we want to keep our own lands, we have a right to them and we mean to do what we can legally to keep them. We mean to challenge the morality of laws that encode our genocide as their mathematical conclusion.

We want to say what we think. If we want to be censored, we can find that at school, work, church, and everywhere else already. We have that. That’s what we want to fight.

By Old Atlanticon 1/20/09 at 11:03 am

elitist,

A real movement would lose the “white” and focus on very specific and doable tasks with mass appeal like emigration, school curricumum, quotas.

I’ve been quite clear about why I think that all of the issues you mention need to be approached from the perspective of race, and why we can’t, consequently, lose the “white.” In my view, it is impossible to understand the significance of issues like quotas and immigration without broaching the topic of innate racial differences. If you try to view these topics in a race-neutral way, you will never get to the heart of the problem. Thus, in my view, it is the race-neutral approach that lacks intellectual and practical substance.

Moreover, there are already many established groups that are already approaching these issues in the way that you suggest. Certainly, many mainstream figures and groups in Europe are speaking out against immigration and multiculturalism from a race-neutral perspective. More of this sort of thing is not needed and strikes me as hopelessly cowardly and dishonest.

But if that is what you want, I suggest you start working with people who think like you rather than running down others. Or start your own forum rather than brusquely commanding me to do your work for you.

Your comments are infused with nasty and baseless stereotypes of people in the pro-white movement that are derived from malicious portrayals in the mass media. There are, undoubtedly, a few knuckle-draggers, but most of the people in the movement that I have met are substantially more intelligent and cultured than average. The quality of the commenters on this site is extremely high, and even a cursory perusal ought to be enough to disabuse you of the prejudice that we are all ignorant bigots.

By on 1/20/09 at 11:12 am

Congratulations on your new site. The name, concept, and activist orientation all respond to an urgent need that has not been articulated this way before. Your talent and hard work are a blessing for traditional Americans. Best of luck with this endeavor.

By on 1/20/09 at 12:36 pm

Ian,

First of all, congratulations on your new site. You have my admiration for devoting as much time as you have to the cause of our nation’s survival.

However, if you don’t mind me asking, how exactly do you plan on attracting people to this site a la Stormfront? Do you want the typical WN-style internet participants to make a home here or are you committed to eating into the mainstream conservative readership at sites like Lucianne.com or FreeRepublic.com? In other words, do you really think that an improved conceptual design is all that you’ll need in order to attract a level of traffic significantly greater than Inverted World?

By notuswindon 1/20/09 at 7:19 pm

Congratulations and THANK YOU, Dr. Jobling, for WhiteAmerica.us!

I find it incomprehensible that there are so many white whitebashers. Elitist is just another sorry excuse for one white who thinks he is so far ahead of the rest of us. The lightened-up crowd. I am proud to be white and any shame I have is due to whites like elitist. They have no tribal or preservation instincts. Their foolishness and self-gloat trumps all reason. Why is it that America was loved around the world when she was 90% white? Why is it that the America that was 90% white was the envy of the world? For decades other races and cultures longed and struggled to make it to our shores without much luck. If it was such a bad place back then, why did so many want to be a part of it? Now they only come for the spoils of dispossession.

By Miss Scarletton 1/20/09 at 7:19 pm

Ian:

I am thrilled to be part of this site. Maybe one day in the not so distant future “Elitist” will eat those words of his. I will give him the benefit of the doubt and try to believe that he means well.

I will begin my campaign within a few days to have the vehemently anti-white book, Howard Zinn’s “A People’s History of the United States” banned from public schools in Virginia. I will write my first letter to several papers injecting a racial perspective. If we are to win this small skirmish and recruit conservative and civic-minded whites to start thinking in terms of defending their culture and race, then now is as good a time as any.

Concerned

By on 1/20/09 at 7:27 pm

Do you want the typical WN-style internet participants to make a home here or are you committed to eating into the mainstream conservative readership at sites like Lucianne.com or FreeRepublic.com? In other words, do you really think that an improved conceptual design is all that you’ll need in order to attract a level of traffic significantly greater than Inverted World?

By notuswind on 1/20/09 at 7:19 pm

I know this question was not directed at me; however, if Mr. Ian Jobling doesn’t mind, I will say, I think we need some of both. We need some committed rational White Nationalists (who don’t just utter racial slurs and give us the sterotypical negative image (the media has given our movement). Regarding Stormfront: I have visited that site, and there are many moderates there; it’s not just skinheads and other extremists. We also want moderates from the official mainstream sites, and “fence-sitters.” We need those who are already committed and a ‘foot in the door’ of the official mainstream.

By EA Steveon 1/20/09 at 9:02 pm

Elitist,

I don’t mind that you are not as far along on the spectrum of saving Western Culture as most of the rest on this site. However, the claim with absolute certainty that Michelangelo and Shakespeare were homosexuals is as bold a claim as proclaiming Barack Obama as the new Thomas Jefferson or Abraham Lincoln (or me as Saint Michael for that matter). I say Viel Gluck to you on stopping the Islamization of Eurabia, as the fight is important. However, belittling the cause of saving White America, which is the most important front for us who are still in America, is a misguided insult placed here. I wish you no ill-will, but I hope you live to see the truth in what we stand for.

Gregory F.

By on 1/20/09 at 9:32 pm

The emblem of the women with the flag is charming in a genteel kind of way, but it’s definitely not vigorous, energetic, or masculine enough for the type of strong White movement which must arise and reverse the swelling tide of Browns, Blacks, and Yellows before the White world goes extinct.

By nameon 1/21/09 at 3:09 am

This is a great article that makes many great points. I too have always thought that our nation is in a state of advanced psychosis in regards to race (I have always compared it to something out of “The Twilight Zone”). It’s almost like a cult of multiculturalism in which every American claims membership.

However, I do have one really minor quibble with something mentioned in passing in the piece. This may be controversial to say, but I do not consider segregation a crime. In my opinion, segregation was a needed policy in the South to ensure that the region remained a monoracial environment with unblemished Southern culture and values. Indeed, look at the problems this court and federal government-imposed integration has caused Dixie over the last 40-50 years.

By the way, I find it fitting that the inspiration for the very first posting on this site is Hua Hsu’s “The End of White America.” I think you should send this article to him. He needs to see how flawed and perverted his thinking is.

P.S. Lothrop Stoddard’s book “The Rising Tide of Color Against White World-Supremacy” was a prophetic book published in 1920. Many of the predictions made in the book have already come true so I would recommend for everyone to at least take a look at it.

By Mike G.on 1/21/09 at 4:39 am

Regarding Stormfront: I have visited that site, and there are many moderates there; it’s not just skinheads and other extremists.

Some people at Stormfront are bored young white guys who are just curious and have no well thought out ideas other than they hate diversity.

Still, with some exceptions, the American WN scene is hooked up with the NeoNazi, anarcho libertarian kooks, defeatist paleocon windbags, and government conspiracy/black helicopter fringe in a way the “far right” in Europe isn’t.

The Italian Northern League leadership does not waste any energy cultivating Nazi revisionists in Italy. The Euronationalists go for the mainstream and manage to win elections and are increasingly popular among young Europeans.

I’m not sure how Ian intends to attract the mainstream though.

I was thinking about suggesting Ian ought to join up with the HBD blogs Steve Sailer inspired. This is where I usually hang out since I consider myself to be an HBDer with WN sympathies.

The advantage Ian would get with joining up - at least for the immediate future- with HBD is:

1) HBD seems to attract a younger college educated audience than mainstream “conservative” websites like National Review,

2) HBDers know the facts and science cold and on average are much smarter than the average WN,

3) It is easier to hook up with an existing movement and try to influence a movement from within than starting something completely from scratch,

4) There are way fewer kooks on average in HBD compared to WN (though there is considerable overlap in terms of ideas between WN and HBD),

and

5) HBD sounds more logical and acceptable to the mainstream while still being honest on race.

The major drawback to joining HBD is that HBD blogs tend to be more favorable to Asian immigration (GNXP is run by two South Asians) than Ian probably is.

By The Undiscovered Jewon 1/21/09 at 6:34 am

How can we expect to succeed when we willingly side with the Libs regarding white nationalism and white nationalist sites? Name calling and slanderous accusations seem to be the norm when describing pro-white causes, even amongst ourselves. The word Nazi is about as overused/misused as the word racist. I don’t believe Stormfront is filled to capacity with “Nazis,” “racists,” and other diabolical henchmen just waiting to pounce. The one thing Stormfront does better than any other pro-white group, site, or other… it is intimidated by no one! It might be the subject of every insult imaginable, but it marches on… and that is because it is free of doubt and do I dare say “guilt.” I have visited it a few times more or less out of curiosity but I almost felt like I was opening the puzzlebox from a Hellraiser movie (based solely on what others say about it and not from experience). And to my surprise - and immense relief - Pinhead never appeared!

By Miss Scarletton 1/21/09 at 9:16 am

Continuing the discussion here.

The bulk of the Stormfront community is filled with reasonable individuals who have only a minimal connection (if at all) with the old nationalist scene of the 60s-70s. In my view, Stormfront’s two main flaws are as follows:

1) Lack of Leadership - Black & Duke are both, to varying extents, burnout holdovers from the old nationalist scene. Apparently, neither is willing nor able to provide the kind of effective leadership that we need in North America if our nation is survive the next few decades. To his credit, Black has been very explicit in stating that Stormfront is not an activist organization but rather a forum through which such an organization could be developed amongst like-minded individuals.

2) Lack of Activist Focus - The Stormfront community has no program for practically addressing our situation. There is a rarely stated consensus amongst Stormfronters which says that any such attempt to build a real brick-and-mortar organization will be quickly shutdown by an ultra-paranoid ZOG, so why bother. Defeatist and paranoid attitudes like this are not properly discouraged.

By notuswindon 1/21/09 at 10:54 am

Thank you for creating White America , we need all the help and support we can get . Let me warn you I am not a great intellectual as you and the people who have left some outstanding post . However I did want to encourage you to keep going in the direction that your going in .

You could not have picked a better symbol for the website , I congratulate you on the selection . It reminds me of a time of the gentle art that represented America , a time of national pride and awareness . A time of my grandparents hey day . My grandfather was a medical Doctor and practiced in the state of Alabama . He was born and raised in Mississippi and he and all of his brothers, including one that was deft all became medical Doctors . I will never forget one Christmas morning when we were visiting him and my grandmother in Atalla , Alabama , we had just started opening our presents , when the phone rang and he had to grab his black medical bag and run out the door . I was so upset that he had to leave us at that special moment and we he arrived back I asked him what had been so important . He told me a black man was near death and was spitting up blood . The man lived way out in the country and his wife knew she could count on my grandfather to come out and tend to him .

My grandfather , it turned out had a lot of black folks he took care of and most of the time they had nothing to pay him with except maybe an old shotgun or voodoo chicken’s foot or turnip greens and ham hocks or cow’s tongue dinner . No one in our family hated black people and everyone of my ancestors had fought on the side of the confederacy and would again(will again).

By RandyBrownon 1/21/09 at 12:01 pm

Stormfront has been around forever and gotten nowhere. Part of the reason they get nowhere is that they aren’t pushing an ideology but are more of a sounding board for a very wide variety of opinion and ideologies.

Meanwhile, many of the EuroNationalists are actually serving in coalition governments because they reached out to the mainstream European voter. The WN scene in the US is a dead end with mostly failed leadership. I don’t see how Ian is going to get far by trying to reform WN because the movement is already splintered, and wildly ideologically incoherent.

HBD on the other hand is less interested in ideological purity and vastly more devoted to understanding race science and looking at how to apply the science to public policy in a logical way beneficial to whites. HBD is something that can build itself up over time as the science of neuro differences across the races develops.

Plus, many HBDers are often sympathetic to WN policies and there is an good amount of overlap in terms of policy ideas. I’ve suggested welfare dependents should be sterilized in order to receive welfare benefits on Half Sigma’s blog a number of times and I have received quite a positive response from the HBD posters over there.

Finally, the intelligence and quality of discussion and debate at HBD blogs is just vastly superior to anything you will see on any WN forum.

Here is just one example of what I am talking about:

http://www.halfsigma.com/2009/01/the-gloading-of-chess-and-painting.html

One of the difficulties of associating artistic ability with intelligence is that there is no reliable way to measure artistic ability by tests, nor is there a way to score the merits of a finished work of art on a scale that would be useful. Various tests have been invented to test for creativity. They seem to be based on valid ideas and appropriate designs. The problem has been that scores on these tests do not predict anything. Someone can score high on a creativity test and hold a score, but that score doesn’t tell us anything about whether or not the person can or will produce anything related to creativity, especially in the sense of “art.”

When the subject is science, creativity doesn’t have to be measured because IQ can and does tell us what that person is likely to do in a career. Scientific creativity is not the same thing as artistic creativity. A creative scientist may figure out links between factors that have been missed by other researchers, but a creative artist must assemble a means of expression that is going to resonate with the people who experience the final work. There is good evidence that dumb people do not turn out to be outstanding at either chess or art (any form), but beyond that, the people who do outstanding work are most likely working with personal abilities that fall outside of the parameters of IQ.

Posted by: vantage | January 21, 2009 at 09:53 AM

By The Undiscovered Jewon 1/21/09 at 12:51 pm

Amren has been around longer than Stormfront. It hasn’t gone anywhere either. Racialism can be watered down further still into paleoconservatism. Chronicles and Takimag aren’t going anywhere. Paleos have no influence in the mainstream.

The “moderate” vs. “extremist” distinction exists only in the minds of race realists. “Moderates” invariably get tarred with the same brush. They are going to be denounced as “racists” and “white supremacists” no matter what they do. The “moderates” get the same silent treatment and vitriol from the mainstream media that the “extremists” get. End of story.

By The Observeron 1/21/09 at 1:34 pm

Thank you Ian;

I believe you are on the right path. It is very important to use the word “White” . What “elitist” suggested although maybe not consciously is what you have been fighting: The lie that whites are the “cancer” of the world. If even we are afraid to use “white” we are acknowledging that what we are fighting against is actually true. I associate “White” people, with almost all inventions , and other developments which have been positive for mankind. That is fact as those who frequented the Inverted World are well aware.

By Joe Hamiltonon 1/21/09 at 1:35 pm

We definitely should try to make common cause with like-minded movements and individuals: HBD realists, immigration-restrictionists, traditionalist conservatives, responsible environmentalists (as few of them as there are), perhaps even disenchanted liberals and neocons (right-liberals). But we shouldn’t sacrifice the truth in the pursuit of a common ground.

And the truth is that white racialism, while indispensable, is a means to an end. The end is the preservation of the Western civilization. In this light, no compromise with the nazis is possible, or indeed desirable. They are a monstrous aberration of the Western tradition and thus an enemy of the West and everything we stand for.

By on 1/21/09 at 2:34 pm

Thanks to everyone who is wishing me well! The people who commented on Inverted World and now are commenting on this site are one of its greatest strengths. I’m constantly impressed by your knowledge and insight.

I’m planning on making how to build the pro-white movement the subject of my next article. One thing I’m going to say is that a large share of the responsibility lies with you. The only way the movement will succeed is if you take steps large and small to make it succeed. One of the most basic things you can do is to constantly keep up a lively conversation that will engage people who first encounter our website. Of course, White America in its first few days has not lacked for lively conversation, but, if The Inverted World is any guide, the conversation will wane to a slow trickle at times. If you want to help the movement, I would urge you to visit the forum and post there. Not only does this engage new-comers, but it provides a constant fund of new ideas that I pay close attention to.

Similarly, you should make full use of the other resources. You should use the meet-up system that I’ve put in the forum, and you should participate in the activism campaigns that I will post.

As far as Stormfront goes, I’m on the side of those who think that nothing will come of it. People have often told me that there are reasonable people there, and I don’t doubt that’s true. But it’s awfully hard to find them. I’ve gone to the site from time to time to look for these reasonable people, but immediately encounter some Aryan Nations kooks, or some other such weirdness, and leave sickened. You can always find some good in everything, I suppose, but I see no reason to hope for anything from a website that features the commentary of the insane and execrable David Duke and whose members applauded the prospect of the genocide of Israelis at the 2006 American Renaissance conference. Nevertheless, I hope the reasonable people there will eventually join up with us here at White America, and I will not hold their past against them if they do.

By on 1/21/09 at 3:45 pm

Just to be clear, I’m not pressuring anyone to use the meet-up feature in the forum. However, a lot of people did request the feature in a poll on Inverted World, and I’m urging at least them to use it.

By on 1/21/09 at 5:24 pm

Ian, did you cancel your digg account, or were you banned?

By meuseon 1/21/09 at 8:18 pm

meuse,

I don’t want to bug people here with this. I’ll answer your question soon in the lounge.

By on 1/21/09 at 8:29 pm

The Undiscovered Jew,

I think I may speak for the majority of us when I say, “we aren’t as interested in the sciences of race as we are the preservation of our own race.” I would say that we already have an understanding of how race impacts IQ, which, in turn, determines one’s ability to control certain behaviors and urges in addition to the ability to grasp advanced concepts. A good example of this is most african languages: in pointing to a fruit or animal in a tree, there is no phrase for “halfway up the tree;” it’s just, “up the tree.” Halfway is an advanced concept… Let’s not get confused when there is an intelligent black who does understand advanced concepts, as that is an exception to the norm.

It is because of the racial differences that we are trying to PRESERVE the white nation.

By on 1/21/09 at 9:21 pm

I think I may speak for the majority of us when I say, “we aren’t as interested in the sciences of race as we are the preservation of our own race.”

The prerequisite for convincing ordinary whites about the need to preserve white civilization is for mainstream whites to have a basic understanding of neuro differences between the races. As long as they believe the neuro-Blank Slate song and dance pro-whites will just be talking to people who already agree with them.

By The Undiscovered Jewon 1/22/09 at 8:53 am

Mark,

You should post something in the Virginia section of the meetup discussion boards.

By on 1/22/09 at 11:05 pm

not mere outreach is in order, but active and aggressive

proselytizing, without effrontery or confrontery.

i see so much preaching to the converted it’s like

marching around in circles feeling warm and fuzzy but

not making much progress.

By seattle reignon 1/23/09 at 3:06 pm

seattle reign,

So why don’t you suggest some activist projects either here or in our activist forum?

By on 1/23/09 at 3:36 pm

First, a hearty congratulations to Dr. Jobling for his courage and sacrifice in starting this patriotic site. Now, business…

Here is a possibly stupid suggestion: why don’t we stop having discussions of meta-strategy, and just all focus on increasing awareness of white dispossession and promoting defensive white preservationism in every venue, with every white person, in every way possible? These chat boards always remind me of a bunch of pre-Revolutionary Russian cafe-radicals, endlessly debating evolutionary vs revolutionary strategies for achieving socialism. What put those malign utopians over the top was not their precious theorizing, but the communistic consciousness that they had sown in certain sectors of Russian society, combined with the unforeseen circumstances of the First World War. Let us see how our future unfolds…

Whatever we want is less relevant than what we will be able to get, which will evolve with shifting physical realities. Secession? Reconquest of America? Re-segregation? Restoration of freedom of association? (I’ve yet to meet a racialist who wants to restore slavery, though I know one, and met another, who want to exterminate all non-“Aryans”, planet-wide.) Mere immigration moratorium plus abolition of affirmative racism? Circumstances will determine not only what we can get, but also what we should advocate at any time.

I suggest we recognize that:

  1. Western civilization (WC) is what we wish to preserve.
  2. “WC could not have been created apart from the genetic endowments of the European peoples, nor is there any reason to suppose it will endure apart from that racial genome.” Sam Francis (with some paraphrasing at the end).
  3. The presence of substantial numbers of non-whites in white societies thus represents a lethal threat to the perpetuity of those societies (yes, I’m collapsing a lot of empirical assumptions into that statement).
  4. For many historical reasons, whites are both massively outnumbered on Earth, and, absent war or natural calamity, destined to shrink much further as a percentage of the globe’s inhabitants.
  5. Unless whites somehow reacquire apartheid racial states (territories with sovereign polities in which all non-whites have been stripped of citizenship and physically removed), global ecological, economic and demographic pressures (to say nothing of ideological brainwashing), operating in tandem with white indifference or treason plus non-white (“family reunification”) agitation, will eventually reduce whites to physically insecure minorities across the whole planet. Our race will then likely eventually disappear through a combination of miscegenation and, later, wrt the racially heartiest whites, extermination.
  6. Western Man is Ethical Man, a fact we might in this case decry, but cannot avoid. The moral case for the physical removal of existing non-whites from Europe can be made (though not easily, if we are concerned with non-whites born on European soil; this will require a substantial re-thinking of Western ethics, but it can and will be done). I’m not convinced, however, such a case can be made, at least pre-racial warfare, wrt the New World (though of course, the ethical case to merely stop immigration is simple, which begins with no one having a right to immigrate, period). It would have been so, so much better never to have allowed Third World immigration. But as long as the immigrants arrived legally, what would be our moral justification for expelling them (obviously this reasoning does not apply to illegal aliens)?
  7. Pan-European nationalists should focus on saving Europe: specifically, racialists there, and Occidentalists everywhere, should, as their highest priorities, demand a) an immediate end to further legal immigration, refugees and asylees; b) the immediate deportation of all illegal immigrants, along with securing relevant borders; and, once this has been accomplished (but not before), c) the forcible repatriation of ALL non-Europeans from Europe.
  8. Concurrently, racialists in Europe must agitate for laws banning/nullifying mixed race marriage, and incentives promoting white fertility (as exist in Russia today).
  9. All public policies and legislation within the nations of Europe must thereafter be reformulated (for the indefinite future, until the crisis of impending white extinction has been definitively averted) to secure the existence of the white race (and I would hope, to reestablish continuity with historic Western national cultures).

This is what I would like to see.

WRT my nation, America, racialists must focus on increasing awareness among the indoctrinated white masses of the disagreeableness and dangers of allowing our country to be racially diversified through immigration, as well as of the sociobiology of interracial differences in ability, temperament and behavior. Politically, we must be shrewd, as minorities have been, making the most effective initial demands for seemingly race-neutral policies that, however, benefit our race disproportionately (eg, protecting gun rights, sealing the border with Mexico), while constantly issuing other demands, like stopping all immigration, with greater intensity after initial victories.

My point, I guess, is really rather simple. There is no right strategy now that will necessarily still be correct in the future, so excessive theorizing about strategy is a waste of energy. Our energies should be concentrated on what is most feasible, which right now means 1) sealing the border; 2) reducing (eventually abolishing) legal immigration; 3) deporting all 20 million illegals (though not all at once, or in one area); 4) abolishing affirmative action; 5) maintaining firearms freedom; 6) granting tuition tax credits for parents who send their kids to private or parochial schools, or who homeschool; 7) defending and increasing/routinizing the use of the death penalty; 8) protecting the traditional Constitution, which slows the growth of the anti-white dispossessionist regime’s power; 9) opposing all new welfare spending, which disproportionately benefits non-whites at the expense of whites.

If we focus on these things, which together comprise a kind of “lowest common denominator” white nationalism, and which are also vital for the ultimate goal of securing a future for white children, we have our work cut out for the foreseeable future. Once we achieve some things (most importantly on immigration), we’ll proceed to make new demands, as circumstances dictate.

By on 1/25/09 at 9:50 am

A good, thoughtful comment, Mr. Haller. I especially like the list of activist topics that you come up with, many of which do not seem connected to race when looked at superficially, but turn out to be quite connected when examined more closely. One question your comment raises is what place there is for a public philosophy that declares our ultimate aims. If we are supposed to frame our efforts in race neutral terms right now, is it harmful to publish a statement of the full-fledged pro-white philosophy, such as I have attempted in The Principles of the Pro-White Movement? Should we present ourselves as “equal opportunists”? I have struggled with this question and vacillated between the two approaches, torn as I am between being an activist and an intellectual.

By on 1/25/09 at 5:39 pm

Congrats on your website! It is a breath of fresh air for the white race. In the place where I work, charge responsibilities are rotated between clinicians. On one particular night, this black therapist asked me a question about obtaining some important patient equipment he needed to initiate emergency care for a patient. As I was not the designated charge person that night, I referred him to the black therapist that was in charge. He immediately said, “screw him, we need a white man in charge here every night!” Whether they will admit it or not, they hate us, but need us to survive in society. As much as I dislike Abe Lincoln, the worst thing for the conquered Confederacy was for him to be killed. He did not want freed blacks living among whites, and had plans to colonize them separate from whites. I will be sure to tell all my Confederate comrades about this site.

By on 1/25/09 at 11:36 pm

Ian - I have always thought there needs to be both movements at once. We need a race neutral (or close to it) front, as well as a more aggressive “full-fledged” pro white movement. Sort of in the spirt of the NCLR and MEChA.

By Martelon 1/26/09 at 2:52 am

I disagree with Martel. What he is advocating is exactly what we have now. What is missing is an explicitly pro-white “lowest common denominator” approach (see comment by Leon Haller).

Why is there this need to deceive by having a two-front movement? Let us decide what is reasonable and then advocate for it on an explicitly pro-white basis.

By Hal Kon 1/26/09 at 8:04 pm

Hal K - I don’t think we have anything like that now? What we need, I think, is a broad movement the attracts as many whites into our cause as possible. An overwhelming majority of white people are fearful of organizations like AR or White America. They instinctively shy away in fear of reprisal and retract from some of the arguments that are put forth. I think a large segment of the Latino population is more comfortable with an organization like NCLR as opposed to MEChA. They may sympathize with MEChA’s arguments and message but shy away from their radical tone. On the other hand, I think, most Latinos embrace the message the NCLR puts forth because it is more palatable to their friends and peers who aren’t always Latino. However, at the end of the day, guess who is running NCLA? Leaders who were part of MEChA in their college days and push a radical agenda through a more mainstream message.

Do you see where I’m going with this? We have in White America and AR the beginnings of what could be MEChA for white folks/students. What we need is a NCLR for the “faint of heart’ so to speak.

By Martelon 1/27/09 at 8:44 am

Martel:

NCLR is explicitly pro-Hispanic. I would not call it race-neutral, but I suppose this is just a matter of perspective. I think we agree that there is currently no equivalent to NCLR for whites, where here I mean an organization that is explicitly pro-white and not too radical. White America might help bridge the gap, but I am not sure that it is all the way there.

What I would do is just ask for the missing NCLR-type organization and not even talk about the need for a MEChA-type organization to complement it. Still, I think we are at least half in agreement.

By Hal Kon 1/27/09 at 8:47 pm

The following guy is a good strong straight-talkin representative of White America, just what we need now to take America back from the globalist multicultis:

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOZnRUZKf48&feature=channel

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/walstreetpro2

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/walstreetpro

By Emanon 2/6/09 at 1:08 am

I’ve had an interesting discussion with an Irish Blogger about African immigration to Ireland. Once I refer to intelligence research and its implications for immigration policy he becomes abusive. Interestingly, he doesn’t have any real defence for his position. Out discussion is set out here.

http://captainpurplehead.blogs.ie/2009/01/24/sometimes-its-shameful-to-be-irish/

By on 2/6/09 at 6:51 pm

Interesting comments and concepts here. I must admit I was a little depressed toward the end of the thread, since so many seem to agree that whatever we do to raise awareness of the increasingly tenuous position of whites in America we are up against a big stone block of liberalism that cares not for alternative interpretations of reality.

Where the hope lies, it seems to me, is in awareness-building (I know we are all tired of that term), informing a small audience that eventually grows and acts as a catalyst for changes in perception in the general population. Like the poster who said it is like the intellectuals planting the seeds of Communism for the Bolsheviks to take and run with. Similarly, it may very well be the case that the unvarnished ideas transmitted on sites like this one can eventually affect whole blocks of white Americans in industry, finance and small business. What would such an awakening look like?

I don’t know if we are close to anything like an upsurge in racialist (reality) acceptance, but in a worsening economy it would seem more likely. It’s like flying a glider: you can wait for a long time for just the right conditions, and when they hit it is sudden and you had better be prepared. I think a pragmatic racial awareness is in its infancy in this regard. There is much to learn and much time required for the message to slowly radiate out into the general population, even with robust activism.

People often expect too much of these ‘net activities. They are a necessary step in a process, not a platform from which to launch revolutionary change directly. The modern liberal movement was content to start slow and they maintained grand objectives, like the slow march through the institutions. They are now the old guard, on the way out, but they have no idea what might fill the vacuum of their expiration. We do.

The icon is beautiful, though I wish she had a sword in one hand!

By Hannonon 2/6/09 at 9:36 pm

I gather we need a balance of intellect and strength, of courage and humility, and with that I fully agree. I am not what you would call an intellectual, more of a working man, but a working man who thinks. At 32 years of age I was born into the excrement of the 60’s and 70’s and raised in the middle of we are the world garbage and the multi-cultural aftermath. Since my irresponsible parents were more in love with their lifestyle than their children, the task of raising me came to my elderly grandparents, who instilled within me the love for my people and the culture from the old country. We are brand new, working class whites burned by modern times, strong men and women who are not junkies or alcoholics, who hold down jobs and take care of our families. I call us traditionalists, White Americans who cling to their heritage through the persecution and ostracization. You see my type everyday, unwavering stone faced men who look like their holding back vomit. We are not afraid, we’ve been living with this garbage our whole lives…the wool has been removed and what a revolting sight. sincerely, a reformed “skin”

By on 4/21/09 at 2:19 pm

We need as many white conservative’s to join this as we can! It’s pretty bad when you go into most major cities, and feel as you’re in Africa sometimes. It seems as we are starting not to lead this nation anymore, as more and more blacks take office. Another issue that I want to bring to everyones attention, crap like mtv is posining the minds of America’s youth, which portrays an image of being black is cool! (rap stars, thug life, etc.) MTV IS NOT FOR WHITE AMERICA! Not only do you now see all these young white guys acting like blacks (wiggers), but interracial dating which is also a threat! An example of this type person is in this link (wigger guy), I am entradieo who commented. As a young white male of our nation, if this isn’t corrected soon, and brought more to light, it will get worse as my generation comes in! link-more comments are welcome on this video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_0iIQLqCB8&feature=related

By I support thison 5/27/09 at 10:20 pm

Hi Ian Thanks for such a nice post and you really did great job throwing lights on this sensitive but not widely discussed issue.

By on 7/31/09 at 5:36 am

Elitist:

You know as well as I that 99,9999999% of white supremacists are the guys who would would cheerfully bash fags like Michelangelo or Shakespeare(or T Williams or A Copland or Leonardo or Nureyev or….) if they met him on the street. And that most don’t actually know who any of these guys are.

Ian Jobling:

Your comments are infused with nasty and baseless stereotypes of people in the pro-white movement that are derived from malicious portrayals in the mass media. There are, undoubtedly, a few knuckle-draggers, but most of the people in the movement that I have met are substantially more intelligent and cultured than average. The quality of the commenters on this site is extremely high, and even a cursory perusal ought to be enough to disabuse you of the prejudice that we are all ignorant bigots.

These are not my original words. But I saw this by a poster at another board and it summed up my feelings perfectly and completely that I saved the words to my documents file:

All it gets down to is a fundamental matter of loyalty. I think we whites have a lot to be proud of, and innumerable civilizations-old achievements and breakthroughs representative of desirable and livable societies. But it’s immaterial in my mind when it comes to white nationalism — whites could be the dumbest and scummiest people on the face of the Earth, and I’d still be a white nationalist. They’re my people, not a treatise in Aristotelian logic. End of story.

By Clytemnestraon 8/18/09 at 2:34 am

The reason why white people, and white nationalists, in particular, appear to be so scattered is that we are in such denial over our tenuous political status we still operate under the assumption that our only problem is political and erego the only solution can be political.

The biggest problem that white nationalists face is their own unrealistic leadership skills. They simply want to play Paul Revere, wake up the sleeping white populace and tell them to man the barricades in a race war that they have already been brainwashed by years of anti-white propaganda in the education and media system to lose. This is very dubious leadership.

It would have to get really, really, really bad before it would come to these people putting up a fight. They’d have to lose the roofs over their heads, and be starving, with absolutely nothing left to lose before it would come to that.

The real solution is a social one. White nationalists need to install a strong social networking system and resource base for other whites. White owners of small to medium companies can hire whites only rather than relying on illegal labor. If a white nationalist is in a position to know that a job is coming open in his company then he can use his influence to get a white in. The same with the alma mater of certain colleges. The same when it comes to housing in a desirable area. White nationalists can use their churches to set up unofficial food banks and charities and emergency aid for other whites in the area. Their churches can sponsor White South African and White Rhodesians from Africa into the country rather than Somalis and other black Africans. White associations can help White people adopt poor white children languishing in orphanages in Eastern Europe. White nationalists can run errands for and check in on the elderly and disabled whites. They can drop in on single mothers with some diapers and baby food. They can provide the muscle to whites commuting through dangerous areas and prevent the mishaps that come from “walking while white.”

Whites need to resist any media propaganda against other white countries like Russia. The reason why our numbers are dwindling is two world wars where fratricidal whites did everything they could to wipe each other out in what amounted to tribal conflicts between the Anglo Saxons, the Gauls, the Teutons and the Slavs.

Because of our mixed European ethnicity, American whites could be in a position to offer a Pan-European leadership to all the whites in the rest of the world if we put in a fraternal social networking order in our own country. Think of all whites in the USA as our brothers and sisters and all whites in other countries as our first cousins.

But it needs to start here and now. Once the social network is in place, the politics will take care of itself. If a young white man is in trouble, the entire white community will instinctively rally to his aid rather than half of them being at the head of his lynch mob the way they were in the Duke Lacrosse bogus rape case. If a young white couple is abducted and murdered like Newsom and Christian, there will be mobs of white people marching in the street and demanding justice. Because that racial solidarity engendered by strong social networking will already be there.

Then and only then will you have the average white Joe Sixpack ready to man the barricades on your command at a moment’s notice.

By Clytemnestraon 8/18/09 at 3:20 am

Clytemnestra, that is a brilliant post about a social solution. I have come to the same conclusions as I witness the awesome power of wholistic social approaches to political problems. Think of how certain areas of cities (university areas, etc.) and certain kinds of businesses (coffeeshops, etc.) tend to serve as rally points for the American political Left. Also instructive is the way that fundamentalist Islam came to dominate the political language of Muslim countries in the last few decades. Fundamentalists began, first and foremost, by establishing networks of social services and primary schools throughout their towns and cities. Only later, after they established deep community roots, did they attempt to exert real political influence. Finally, the successes of certain nationalist youth movements in Europe have depended heavily on fostering a subculture of patriotic youth that drink, debate and socialize with one another as often as they engage in overtly political acts. Thus an alternative social network is established to counter the dominant multicultural/complacent one. There are a number of directions such a network could take here in the US, including the ones you have mentioned. I am a new graduate, but I hope to begin some kind of organization or test website in the next few years with this social direction in mind.

By on 8/18/09 at 12:15 pm

It was to facilitate this kind of network building that I set up the meetup forums in the White American forum. No one uses those though. It’s kind of funny, really. Every few months someone says, “Hey, we should network!” And then no one does.

By on 8/18/09 at 2:50 pm

Ian, thanks for the response. I am thinking that a site may have to “give” more than a blank forum. We are operating in the age of all-in-one packages and fast food. Maybe a really attractive and accessible site with different options to post/support friendly businesses in the area, plug cultural items or events of interest for those in a certain area, or a host of other non-political activities.

I think this is what Clytemnestra was referring to: forming a more non-political community that offers the things to which more people would likely be drawn, all the while stressing the particular idea that people of our line have interests as well and it is right to think of ourselves as distinct.

It would further such an approach to have an initial stress on things that white people can improve on themselves, rather than only the usual lamenting on the damage other peoples are inflicting. Left to ourselves, we generally do good for our own communities and thus not many in the “PWM” acknowledge that in our age even white communities are not exactly healthy places. Pop culture, industrial food, sterile suburbs, and consumerism have all taken their toll. I think that the idea of common white interests will be easier for the timid majority to accept if the focus is initially on our own shortcomings as a people (and what we can do to improve ourselves) rather than the shortcomings of others. Thus, a benign and unimpeachable way to wedge the idea of common white identity into public legitimacy. An organization that could take off with such an approach would be onto something.

Another benefit from focusing on less political, more social and commercial networking: we need money. The PWM, while possessing some of the most clear-headed commentary and ideas, has always had the most wretched quality of publications whether print or online. An initial focus on sharing information and figuring out how best to try and keep money within the PWM community is worth a shot. Promoting things that people get a return from rather than just asking for donations seems the more hopeful course.

As you can tell, I haven’t honed any of these ideas down to specifics. They’re just thoughts and visions.

By on 8/19/09 at 7:22 pm

Scott,

Granted that there’s only a limited amount one can do with a forum like the one I offer, people could still do something with it, instead of nothing, like they’re doing now. What incentive would anyone have to build a system like the one you suggest when there seems to be so little interest in white community building? Now, if my forum, or any other, showed signs of a burgeoning interest in white community building, then someone might deem it worth his while to take the project a step further along the lines you suggest. But since there’s no such burgeoning interest, why bother? And if you’re interested in community building, you’ve either got to build the system yourself, or you’ve got to start with what’s available.

By on 8/20/09 at 4:29 pm

First and foremost allow me to say thank you for starting a site such as this. I have only in about the last year have been awaken to the problems that White America faces today. What makes it worst is I fight to defend the freedom of those who exploit our nation, and because of that I can only talk and support folks with similar ideas to a very limited extent. However i still read what I can, just because I can not actively participate, does not mean I can not remain educated on todays issues regarding the White race. This is the first article of yours I have read, and next to David Duke’s website, I will be visiting queit often. It has taken me sometime now to find these websites that publish material such as this, and I was growing frustrated. A person can type in any minority movement into the search bar, and list upon list appears but, a White person has to word it just right inorder to get past the filters that the internet has in place. What kind of nation do we live in where a person with a perverse mind can type in a very general search and unlock the most stomach turning sex acts. But, a white person can not find with the same ease the movement that supports their race. So again I thank you and other that share the same outlook on todays events.

By charleson 9/17/09 at 3:25 pm

I applaude your motives and admire you for publicly stating your opinions with which I completely agree. But alas, I fear your efforts are in vain and it is much too late to prevent our rapidly darkening nation from becoming another third-world country unable and unwilling to properly feed or take care of its citizens.
I’m afraid we are on an unstoppable down-hill slide which is picking up speed and momentum by the hour.

By W.L. Reedon 2/23/10 at 10:35 am
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