Minnesota’s Somali Madness

By Duncan Hengest •  6/19/09
Somali women in Minneapolis.
Somali women in Minneapolis.

One of the definitions of “tragedy” is a fall brought about by excess of virtue. Oedipus is destroyed by his thirst for truth, and Macbeth by his originally high-minded ambition. By this definition, the people of Minnesota are truly tragic figures, as their spirit of compassion is leading them to import third-world immigrants who threaten to erode the social fabric of the state.

Minnesota is best known for a polite, “Minnesota-nice” way. The state was founded by a mixture of Scandinavian, Yankee, and German settlers and has always led the nation in progressive causes. This political orientation is deeply rooted in the German/Scandinavian, and Puritan/Quaker folkways of community order, civic virtue, and an equitable society. Liberal politicians like Walter Mondale, Eugene McCarthy, and Al Franken are typical of the state.

Minnesota’s progressivism has never been tempered with bitter racial strife. When it comes to race matters, these Nordics are what Wilmot Robertson called “Old Believers” in his classic book The Dispossessed Majority.1 Old Believers are whites who are so accustomed to a homogeneous society that they do not understand how destructive non-whites can be. Old Believers remain mired in the outlook of past social reformers and still seem to think that a dose of “understanding,” church attendance, jobs programs, welfare reform, and the like will turn third-world peoples into respectable Midwesterners overnight.

Keep Minnesota nice
Our point, exactly.

These egalitarian progressive folkways have led Minnesotans to import various groups from the Third World. In the 1970s, the Hmong, a Southeast Asian tribe, were a popular import; there are now 46,000 of them living in Minnesota, and 38,000 in neighboring Wisconsin. Hmong have proven a disaster. They are heavily involved in gangs, which, in addition to committing the usual crimes of auto theft, drug dealing, pimping, and murder, have distinguished themselves through their practice of gang rape. Welfare use among Minnesota Hmong is also sky high. There are few better portraits of the trauma that unassimilated immigrants inflict on white communities than Roy Beck’s classic article on the Hmong in Wisconsin.

Minnesotans still have not learned their lesson. Since the 1990s, they have been importing another third-world people, Somalis, who are also proving inassimilable. When one looks at Somalis’ background, their failure to adopt Minnesota-nice ways is unsurprising.

Somalia—The Advance Guard of Third-World Anarchy

Known to Americans today principally for piracy and the 1993 “Black Hawk Down” incident, Somalia epitomizes third-world anarchy. Torn by war and governed by a military dictatorship until 1991, this Muslim nation today has no government, no effective currency, no banking, and no economic activity that creates real wealth. My combat service was in Iraq, and I never went to Somalia, but many of the men and women serving next to me were veterans of Operation Restore Hope, the United Nations-led military campaign in Somalia of 1992-93. Their stories described a people who do little but steal, burn tires, chew khat—a stimulant drug like a very strong form of tobacco—and fight. This culture of sloth, crime, and violence is visible even in the behavior of the children. I once spoke to a female colonel who said that a Somali child had snatched her sunglasses right off her face. Another soldier told me that while he was on a patrol he saw two Somali children, each armed with an AK-47, arguing over a jacket. The patrol passed by unconcerned, then a shot rang out—one of the kids had gotten the jacket, and the other was dying in the street. Another soldier, a truck driver, described his convoys as Wild West gunfights: “You needed to drive, pedal to the metal, from the base to the edge of town where the empty desert started before the shooting stopped.”

The majority of Somalis are not only illiterate, but ignorant of the basic characteristics of modern societies. Credit reports, driver’s licenses, tax forms, electrical appliances, even timekeeping—all are beyond their understanding. Would-be Somali immigrants, who take a crash course on American life at Kenyan refugee camps, require clarification on the most basic points:

After hearing a description of coats, scarves, gloves and long underwear, another student, Lelya Yussuf, 23, asked: “How can we walk while wearing all that? Isn’t it too heavy?” In an effort to explain snow to people who have never seen it, the instructor asked students to imagine how it would feel to live inside a refrigerator. But the analogy fell flat for some, because they’d never heard of such an appliance.

Minnesota Madness

Somalis started to come to the United States after the Refugee Act of 1980, and they began to settle in Minnesota in large numbers in the 1990s. Today there are roughly 50,000 Somalis living in the Minneapolis area.

Somali pirates
Classes for Somali refugees start with the basics.

The Congressional Black Caucus has been an influential advocate of Somali immigration, but many foolish whites are also aiding in their own dispossession. Minnesota’s Lutheran Social Services have teamed up with other Christian religious groups to facilitate Somali resettlement. Not to be outdone, the Jewish Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society opened an office in Kenya to maintain the flow of Somali refugees.

Minnesota’s white politicians also get into the act, and not just the Democrats either. Minnesota’s Republican Senator Norm Coleman has enabled Somali colonization throughout his career. In a press release that announced a six figure grant to the Confederation of Somali Community in Minnesota, Coleman went on to state that he:

has worked closely with the Somali community while in the Senate, having most recently secured the extension of Temporary Protected Status for certain Somalis living in the United States. Coleman also has a Somali immigrant, Mahamoud Wardere, on his staff to help facilitate and increase his outreach to the Somali community.

Coleman with Somalis
Sen. Coleman—a Somali’s best friend!

Coleman wanted payback for his efforts: during the 2008 elections, he sent staffers and translators to polling places in Somali neighborhoods to encourage voters to cast their ballot for him.

Crime

Somali society is based on violence, and Somali immigrants retain their violent ways. Because Somalis are classified as “black” in police statistics, there is no way to separate Somali crime from black crime in general. Nonetheless, evidence exists for a pattern of major Somali crime on a city-wide scale in Minneapolis. A rash of homicides left seven Somalis dead between December 2007 and November 2008. Police suspect three of the deaths were gang-related. There has even been one incident of racially motivated violence against whites. Last August, after three Somali teenagers attacked a white man, one of the offenders said, by way of explanation, that he does not like white Americans. Just an hour before, the boys had assaulted a white woman.

Somali gang crime victim
A victim of Somali gang crime.

The city has taken note of Somali crime. The Minneapolis Police Department now employs Somali-speaking specialists. The city is staging anti-violence workshops in an attempt to suppress Somali bloodshed. The retired rapper Napoleon, a convert to Islam who now goes by his Muslim name Mutah Beale, said in a speech at one of the workshops: “The Somalis came to this country to get away from the violence and make a better life, but some are going down the wrong path. It doesn’t make sense.” Actually it does make sense. The Somali have transported their violent folkways with them to Minnesota. All of the “mentoring” at community centers, blogging against violence, and civics workshops are unlikely to do any good.

Other sources indicate the severity of the Somali crime problem. One police community outreach report noted that “community concerns have frequently been raised about groups of Somali youths.” Minneapolis residents also express frustration and outrage over Somali crime online. Describing the changes in his neighborhood due to Somali immigrants, one writes:

Don’t even get me started on the increased number of police calls on our block. We went from ZERO in more than 14 years to more than two dozen in last two years! Theft, drugs, domestic assault, gang fights—you name it—we’ve now got it in our neighborhood! Yup, it’s colorful all right.

A Somali blogger lamented:

Here in Minneapolis, today as we celebrate Eid with our families and friends, a Somali mother is in tears and in pain for the loss of her only son. He was 19. He came for a hair cut to get ready for the Eid festivities. Unfortunately, he didn’t make it. His life was cut short by a bullet probably from another Somali teenager. Just a week ago, a Somali family buried their 20 year old son, a third year college student, who was shot in front of community center where he was volunteering to tutor and mentor younger kids. Three months before that, in the same place of the community center, slain was a 31-year-old youth mentor and basketball coach. Two months before that, [an]18-year-old high school graduate was killed in the Cedar-Riverside neighborhood. These brothers were killed by other brothers in what now can be only termed as an all-blown-out senseless gang violence within the Somali community.

Organizing for Islam

Somalis have achieved some degree of political organization. The Twin Cities are now home to the Confederation of Somali Community in Minnesota, the Somali Women’s Organization, the Somali Justice Advocacy Center, and a host of other groups. White liberals have, of course, helped Somalis to organize. As an example, a 2008 initiative to improve Somali voter education was aided by a seemingly endless list of organizations with names like Take Action Minnesota, Got Voice, Got Power, the Minnesota Council of Non-Profits, and Wellstone Action.

Planting Islam
Planting Islam in Minnesota.

It is likely that Somalis will use any political power they gain for the advancement of Islam—all Somalis are Muslims. This is already happening in a minor way. America’s first Muslim congressman, Keith Ellison, who represents Minneapolis, has stated that his election victory was due to support from Somalis. At a meeting designed to drum up Somali support for Democratic senate candidate Al Franken, Congressman Ellison invited Somali cleric Abdullahi Ugas Farah to speak. Farah advocated the opening of Sharia courts in Mogadishu in 2003. We should be concerned about the links between Somali voters, a black Muslim Congressman, and Sharia law advocates in the Muslim world. Somali Sharia courts were deemed such a threat to American interests that the United States has used the Ethiopian Army in a proxy war against them in an ongoing conflict that started in 2006.

Rep. Ellison meets with Somalis
Rep. Keith Ellison meets with Somalis.

Minnesota Somalis have already begun lobbying to legitimate Islamic law. Somali taxi drivers created a media firestorm in 2007 when they refused to transport people with dogs or alcohol in their cabs. While the this effort was beaten back, the Somali campaign for “Islamic mortgages” was successful. Under Islamic law, charging interest is illegal, so Islamic activists at the African Development Center pressured the state of Minnesota to implement a program that would purchase homes and sell them to Muslims for a higher price, but with interest-free loans. This pandering will likely harm Minnesota’s economy, as peoples of third-world origin are likely to default on mortgage payments.

Wherever diaspora communities of Muslims exist, they lobby fervently for the right to be governed by Islamic law. The phenomenon even has a name: “creeping Sharia.” In Quebec, due to Muslim activism, Muslim women can wear their face-covering veils when they get photographs taken for voter identification cards, which defeats the purpose of a photograph ID. In Britain, Sharia courts operate with the full support of the government. There is no reason to think that Minnesota Somalis, especially with the aid of their Muslim congressman, will not continue to act as their coreligionists elsewhere do.

Welfare

Somalis are gaining increased political clout that they can use against whites, but they need a great deal of white money to keep the heat on during Minnesota’s winters. Somalis are largely unemployable in America’s fast, productive economy. The sloth described by American troops stationed in Somalia is also evident in the work performance of Somali immigrants. In 2008, meatpacking companies became targets for DHS raids on illegal immigrants from Mexico. Still seeking to avoid paying higher wages to whites, a Colorado meatpacking plant replaced the Mexicans with Somalis who were legal residents of the US. At first the hire seemed a good move, but the Somalis demanded an unreasonable amount of time off to practice their religion. The plant ended up firing hundreds.

Somali workers Colarado
Somali workers in Colorado.

Idle Somalis are a major concern for Minnesota’s civic authorities. As Somali activist Nimco Ahmed has complained, “It’s hard to see them just being on the streets and not doing anything with themselves.” Along with Amerindians, native blacks, and Hmong, Somalis are unable to move off welfare despite Minnesota’s well-run welfare-to-work programs, according to a report by the Wilder Research Center. Although the report suggests the problem can be solved through more caseworkers and counselors, it is more likely that Somalis will continue to be a burden to Minnesota. Amerindians, to whom Somalis are compared in the report, have been the beneficiaries of government programs since the end of the Civil War, and they are still not self-supporting.

In 2001 and 2002, the settlement of 1,000 Somali refugees in Lewiston, Maine put such pressure on the welfare system there that the mayor wrote a public letter to Somali leaders asking them to stop further migration to the town because it was “maxed out financially, physically and emotionally.” How long will it be before Minneapolis reaches its breaking point?

Taxpayer-Supported Terrorism

Many Somalis are involved in the Islamic jihad against the West. Indeed anti-Americanism and anti-Westernism have long been a key theme in Somali politics. When the nation had a functioning government, it worked against American interests as a member of the Arab League and as a Cold War client of the Soviet Union. When the Soviet Union collapsed, Somalia received a great deal of support from the oil-rich Gulf States, especially Saudi Arabia. This Saudi money brought in anti-Western, Wahhabi influence. Those contacts with Islamic extremists caused Americans great harm during Operation Restore Hope. Osama Bin Laden claimed that al-Qaeda was directly responsible for the deaths of 18 U.S. soldiers in Mogadishu and also trained Somali combatants.

Somali militia
Minnesota Somalis are leaving to wage jihad.

Today, Somalis continue to wage jihad, even some of those who are US residents. Many Minnesota Somalis are returning to their homeland to join Islamist militias. While welfare agents and progressive whites attempt to inculcate Minnesota-nice ways, Somalis are getting a very different message from their mosques, many of which, according to journalist Yusuf Shaba, “talk about nothing but jihad.” The situation is so disconcerting that Senator Joe Lieberman has conducted hearings on the matter.

So far, these radicalized Somali have focused on fighting in Somalia, but it is possible that they will attack the United States. The FBI certainly thinks they might. Last month, investigators reported that they were watching Somalis in the Washington, D.C. area because many of them hold “militant” anti-American views, sympathize with al-Qaeda, and attend a mosque tied to 9/11.

Minnesota Somalis are providing aid to Somali pirates as well. Recently, Omar Jamal, director of the St.Paul-based Somali Justice Activism Center, announced that his organization was making sure Abdiwali Abdiqadir Muse, one of the pirates involved in the attack on the Maersk Alabama in April, would get a fair trial. Such a misplaced sense of justice is too much even for Minnesotans, however. State representative Marty Seifert has made it his mission to see that all federal funds to the organization are blocked.

In Conclusion, an Intervention

Addicts of drugs and alcohol, in their madness, are often oblivious to the damage their habits inflict on their own lives and those of their loved ones. If an addict is unable to come to a moment of clarity and find help on his own, families and friends will sometimes stage an intervention to make the addict face up to his destructive behavior. Minnesota’s Old Believers have been drunk on a self-indulgent refugee policy that is doing great harm to themselves and their fellow Americans. This article is an attempted intervention. Minnesotans must recognize their madness and sober up.

Minnesota loves immigrants
An intervention is needed.

To turn from madness, Minnesotans need to start to dismantle their welfare system and turn their refugee agents into resettlement agents. Somalis in Minnesota should be resettled in Africa—if not in Somalia itself, then in Djibouti, Kenya, or Ethiopia. Additionally, plans to import any more tragic third-world peoples must be halted. Minnesotans have now brought in two disastrous minorities, and it is only a matter of time before some Old Believer will discover a new tribe requiring salvation. Interventionists must be on the lookout for such impulses and nip them in the bud.

There are signs that our cause may not be hopeless. One way many Somalis have entered the US is through family reunification, which brought in the relations of Somalis who are already here. In 2008, DNA tests revealed such thorough-going fraud in claims of relatedness that the entire program designed to bring in Somalis was temporarily suspended last November. Activists should work to ensure that such fraud detection programs are implemented permanently across the whole range of immigration to the US.

Another encouraging development is the success of activism in Postville, Iowa in closing down a meatpacking plant whose owners had imported third-world workers, including Somalis. The normally staid mid-westerners were energized by the disruptive behavior of the immigrants. Through aggressive campaigning, the Iowans were able to induce the federal immigration police to raid the plant. The owners of the plant were arrested and the immigrants deported or sent elsewhere. Iowans and Minnesotans share the same mid-Western culture, so, if it can happen in Iowa, it can happen in Minnesota too.

Furthermore, there is some evidence that attitudes are changing. Minnesota’s online police threads show an incredible amount of realism about Somalis. One participant stated:

America has opened its doors to a country ravaged by civil war. At a certain point, our country has to consider whether it has been a net gain or a net loss to allow groups with refugee status into our country. The older refugees often have no desire to assimilate, and the youth gang problem is getting out of control. Now we have this possible terrorism issue, not to mention the billions (yes, billions) in welfare and food stamps fraud. Yes, we are painting with broad strokes for the purposes of discussion, but that does not equal racism. In fact, NOT discussing these issues would be gross negligence.

Riverside Plaza
Riverside Plaza: symbol of Minnesota?

This sort of thinking was beyond the pale in the 1990s, but now it apparently is not.

Perhaps the best symbol of the folly of Minnesota’s Old Believers is the Riverside Plaza, once a stylish block of high rises that were the fictional home of Mary Richards in the Mary Tyler Moore Show and the actual home of the rock star Prince. Before the era of third-world immigration, these apartments were fashionable digs for the upwardly mobile. Today, however, the buildings are a dreary vertical holding facility for non-whites, especially Somalis, paid for by the taxpayer. The complex knows its share of murder and other violence. Should Minnesotans fail to wake up, their cherished progressive institutions, tranquil prosperity, and Minnesota-nice lifestyle could meet a similar fate.

Duncan Hengest (a pen name) can be e-mailed at d.hengest at yahoo dot com.


Notes and References

  1. Wilmot Robertson, The Dispossessed Majority (Cape Canaveral, Fla.: Howard Allen Enterprises, 1981), 110-112. 


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Comments

I live in MN and can attest that everything in this article is accurate.

The Riverside Plaza is referred to oftentimes as the “Crack Stacks” and “Ghetto in the Sky.”

By Shawnon 6/20/09 at 8:05 am

It’s same in East Helsinki, Finland…

By on 6/21/09 at 12:39 pm

It’s what I call the Quaker disease. See Wilderness Empire for more on that. truely these white people DESERVE WHAT THEY GET.

By on 6/21/09 at 3:35 pm
  • “Evolution faster when it’s warmer” - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8115464.stm

Could explain why there is so much more genetic diversity amongst equatorial Africans as opposed to the White Europeans and Asians who live in colder northern climates.

Africans are deprived of too much sunlight in very northerly latitudes (like U.S. state of MN) and this is physically/mentally detrimental to them because they evolved in very sunny Africa. Lack of sunlight in northern climates causes all kinds of problems for non-Whites living there.

By Emanon 6/25/09 at 3:06 am

America is for everybody. Based on the racist comments I have read it sounds like the same old conversation that was used in the 20 and 30 against Italians, and later Blacks

Get with it. Islam is not going to hurt you. hell as far as I am concerned Christianity has done a number on Blacks from Slavery, Jim Crow, and continued racist groups today on this website

Islam is a peaceful religion. Just like Christianity.. please remember there are extremists on both sides. Oklahoma city- white christians bomb federal building, white christians rob a bank, …..you get my picture

By 2050 USA will be a country dominated by people of color…so get use to it…..

African..

By Peter Blacon 7/1/09 at 10:09 pm

“By 2050 USA will be a country dominated by people of color…so get use to it…..”

Can you name a successful brown or black country?

By deaveron 7/2/09 at 11:58 am

It’s hard to know exactly where to begin a critique of Peter “Blac’s” post, since virtually every statement in it is openly absurd.

“America is for everybody”

Says who? Why shouldn’t American citizens have any say in who is allowed into their country? This is something citizens of every non-white nation on earth take for granted. And why America and not any non-white nation?

“Based on the racist comments I have read it sounds like the same old conversation that was used in the 20 and 30 against Italians,…”

Really? Evidence, please. So far as I am aware no one ever accused Italians of adhering to an ideology which sanctioned and mandated killing non-Italians.

“Islam is not going to hurt you.”

It already has.

” hell as far as I am concerned Christianity has done a number on Blacks …”

Why should your opinion trump the facts? It was Moslems, not Christians, who instituted the African slave trade.

“Islam is a peaceful religion.”

Patently ridiculous.

“By 2050 USA will be a country dominated by people of color”

Why shouldn’t American citizens have any say in the immigration policies and welfare state apparatus which are projected to turn the nation in a third-world pesthole? Why is domination by aliens something not to be resisted?

By Cassiodoruson 7/2/09 at 12:31 pm

Well, Cassiodorus has replied to this amply. Thanks for saving me the keystrokes.

I can just see someone walking through Malmö looking “too white” and getting their teeth kicked in by the “religionists of peace”, squalling that Peter Blac promised them that that wasn’t going to happen.

(I’ll ignore Peter Blac’s insinuation that Eurowhites are “colorless”.)

By on 7/3/09 at 12:35 am

Hi, I’m following this website from several weeks, and I find it really interesting and thought provoking. I just write to comment the absurd post by Peter Blac, remembering him that - according to recent demographic trends - in 2050 America will be dominated by Asians and Latinos, not African-Americans. Indeed, black folks will continue to live in their ghettoes, thanks to their wonderful “culture” made of rap, blind victimhood and gangsta behaviour. So goodbye to the dreamland of Barack Obama - welcome to the hell of La Raza or the Nation of Aztlan, which don’t love Africans at all.

By Italian Conservativeon 7/4/09 at 4:18 am

The diaspora that accounts for Somalians also reaches the depths of Canada’s largest city, TORONTO that probably accounts for 75,000 to 100,000 with many inhabiting several high-rises on Dixon Rd.

Statistics Canada never seems to inform, nor update Canadians with hard numbers.

With monotonous regularity as with other western countries, our hard-earned tax dollars are easily doled out to these foreign interlopers in the form of freely acquired month welfare cheques (checks) while Canadians are forced to attend to their daily grindstone known as a JOB!

Since Somalians began arriving en masse since the early 1990’s, it is suspected the vast majority have become accustomed to receiving free money from their Canadian benefactors and will continue with those expectations for the foreseeable future.

In fact, Toronto played the naive host of the wife of a major Somalian war-lord. Yes, he parked “one” of his wives and five children in our city during that time and with customary courtesy, we gladly doled a couple of grand a month to support them, while hubby continued to fight his expensive war back home. This “refugee” in question was often summoned back to Somalia to perform her wifely duties, then was subsequently “fleeing” back to the safety of Canada to pick up her welfare check before the end of the month.

Most Somalian “refugees” will never experience the “joys” of earning their own money, like most of us workers who only slave for 30-35 years at our jobs.

If we had only known in 1970 that our hard-earned contributions in building our developed nations would lead to squandering our money, our streets, our respective nations to the masses of third world interlopers, we would have given second thoughts to our current predicament!

By Fed-up Canuckon 7/10/09 at 8:40 am

Think about it, if you could go to a country where you don,t have to work for your food, housing, medical, utilities, education etc. by leeching off of society, wouldn’t you? It’s not the immigrants who are destroying our country, it’s the government because they permit them to enter.

By PPCon 8/19/09 at 7:04 pm

This site is a BIG joke. This is as if to say that America’s white population surfaced from thin air. What a joke ! the whole world knows America’s stinking history. A 200 year old nation is talking about nations that have cultures and histories dating back to thousands of years.

This site contradicts the founding principles of the USA. No where in the U.S constitution does it say that this useless piece of landmass called the USA was founded purely for whites. Without visible minorities, America would collapse like a sand house. Remember that. If Arabs, South Asians, Orientals, blacks etc are not welcome in the USA then what the heck are ‘white’ Americans doing in the middle east ? in Asia etc ? Aren’t minorities serving America with utmost heart and loyalty as much as whites ? this is ridiculous.

A website about racial differences in the 21st century ? gimme a break u dork !

By Jaysonon 8/20/09 at 12:51 am

“This is as if to say that America’s white population surfaced from thin air.”

Red herring. Where does such a statment appear on this site?

“A 200 year old nation is talking about nations that have cultures and histories dating back to thousands of years.”

So what? How old does it nation have to be before its citizens are allowed to have an opinion about its immigration policy? And of course you’re largely wrong; most nations which exist today are relatively young, considered as nation-states. Italy and Germany, for instance, did not exist in their present form in 1776. Virtually every sub-Sarahan African “nation” is an artificial creation of the West.

“This site contradicts the founding principles of the USA.”

Really? Where are these “principles” to be found? Your social study teacher’s opinion doesn’t count.

“No where in the U.S constitution does it say that this useless piece of landmass called the USA was founded purely for whites.”

The very first piece of federal immigration legislation, passed in 1790, limited immigration to the US to “free white persons.” Immigration policy explicitly and deliberately maintained a white racial composition until the mid-1960s. THAT is the founding racial principle of the United States. And for a “useless land mass” populated by awful white people, it’s awfully attractive to the waves of third-world primitives running over themselves to get here. Why can these people not create a the kind of society they want on their own?

“Without visible minorities, America would collapse like a sand house.”

Exactly the opposite of the truth. America is collapsing under the weight of its non-white population, their crime, their welfare dependence, and their general degeneracy and truculence. You really ought to consult statistical reality before you make absurd statements about who needs whom.

“If Arabs, South Asians, Orientals, blacks etc are not welcome in the USA then what the heck are ‘white’ Americans doing in the middle east ? in Asia etc ?”

What indeed? The tiny white populations in the Middle East or Asia are not 1)generally citizens of Middle Eastern or Asian nations 2)placing social and economic burdens on the native populations of those regions or 3)displacing Middle Easterners or Asians in their own lands.

“Aren’t minorities serving America with utmost heart and loyalty as much as whites?”

No, not really.

“A website about racial differences in the 21st century ?”

What has the century got to do with it? Theories of race are either true or false, regardless of the century in which they’re advanced. You are in fact sadly misinformed about the state of the question. Racial differences are, for instance, sufficiently grounded in genetics for researchers to trace the prehistoric movements of racial groups by studying DNA. Consult the work of Luigi Cavilli-Sforza of Stanford.

“gimme a break u dork !”

Your literacy is impressive

By Cassiodoruson 8/20/09 at 2:11 pm

Don’t know where your from Jayson, but I don’t think you would be too happy if I was in your country sucking it dry.

By PPCon 8/20/09 at 7:23 pm

What is happening to Minnesota and communities such as Rochester, Mankato, etc is horrifying. Somalis account for only a fraction of the overall population but commit a large percentage of the crime. And so much for being holy, the women all have six or seven kids, usually by several different men who don’t stick around to help. The children run wild stealing and vandalizing. They bring violence to schools where it didn’t exist before. The solution is to end welfare - period. Welfare is the beast that fuels this insanity. We also need an immigration time out. Sadly, it won’t happen because our so called leaders are hamstrung by political correctness and loathe the thought they may be called racist, a charge all minorities use to get what they want. We need leaders brave enough to speak the truth and do what’s best for America. A tall order indeed.

By VoiceofSanityon 9/2/09 at 10:48 pm

To Peter Blac: <b></b>Whites are the only true people of Color. Whites are the only race that exhibits the unique genetic characteristics which produce blonde, red, auburn, brown, and black hair colors; shades of skin ranging from milky white to golden bronze complexions, and eye colors of blue, green, hazel, brown, and black. Other races are genetically predisposed to produce ONLY shades of brown and black, thus, they ARE NOT people of “Color.”

By on 9/18/09 at 5:30 pm

It appears that, due to their violent ways, there is a shortage of young men in Somalia. So about 40,000 of us white and Jewish men have decided to move to Somalia and take advantage of the situation by marrying young Somali women. We will make ourselves at home in the houses that Somalis built, confiscate a portion of the crops that Somali farmers grow, and stake out a territory of our choice in Somalia. We’ve decided to follow the Jewish religion, and we fully expect the Somalis to respect our ways and to accommodate us. There’s no reason to suspect that Somalis would object to our presence or our lifestyle, is there?

By on 9/19/09 at 7:57 pm

I moved out of that part of the country ten years ago, i just couldnt take it anymore. I moved to Oklahoma and it is as different as night and day, better weather, more house for the money and no Somalis….. and something you all need to remember Black is Beautiful ,Tan is Grand but White is still the color of the Big Boss MAN….

By Budmanon 10/1/09 at 9:48 pm

Budman, absolutely love, and I guess it’d be your signature -

BLACK IS BEAUTIFUL, TAN IS GRAND, BUT WHITE IS STILL THE COLOR OF THE BIG BOSS MAN!!

By on 10/2/09 at 7:49 pm

I lived in the Twin Cities in the 70s when the smugness about the “quality of life” was quite palpable. Sad to see what’s become of it. I would never live there now.

Correction: Mary Tyler Moore’s character never lived in Cedar-Riverside. She shared a duplex on Lake of the Isles, with neighbor Phyllis Lindstrom (Cloris Leachman) in the unit upstairs.

By on 10/23/09 at 3:45 pm

I grew up near Mankato. It was a nice town. Over the past decade it has turned into a cesspool. Just this past week, a white student was shoved in the hallway of his junior high school by a larger Somali boy. He suffered a head injury and was taken later that day to the emergency room by his parents—not the school! The school did nothing to the Somali boy. Can you imagine if it would have been the other way around? The ultra libs would have been screaming racism. I have family there yet. They have witnessed Somali people coming into the local hospital/clinic with their state medical cards demanding everything when they don’t have to pay a dime. The bottom line is we need to change the welfare system in the state of Minnesota. It is so ridiculous to welcome a group of people here that for the most part hate us. By the way, I will never forget the pictures of our deceased soldiers being dragged through the streets of Somali. Then a few years later they (churches) started bringing them over here. Unreal.

By eliseon 10/26/09 at 2:29 am

Has Garrison Keilor introduced a cute cuddly Somali family into the Lake Woebegone ecosystem yet?

By on 10/26/09 at 6:51 am

maybe history does indeed repeat itself.

I’m Seneca Indian. Everything that the good white people of MN are lamenting about black and brown immigrants has been experienced and said already over the past 200 years about marauding intruders from Europe. Except that its a nightmare from which still there is no escape.

They came, they murdered, they raped, they pillaged, they stole and they destroyed. They stole a land from one group of people and stole another group of people from their own land—-to serve the will of Whites—-that’s wicked.In the process, they created 3rd world nations within a nation.

Europeans were the harbingers of death to many indigenous people as well as native plant and animal species all over the world. The invading Europeans were like a plague—-a disease who poisoned our waterways and our bloodlines through miscegenation and RAPE. They were an invasive species which choked off the life of all that was indigenous and natural.

And yes, the crime went up, our populations went down. Our ways of life, our values and our cultures were contaminated by their unnatural ways. Every where on the planet where Europeans and their descendants have gone, they have been invasive and have brought death and destruction.

Yet, you sit back in all of your self-righteousness and complain about 3rd world immigrants.

By bbon 10/31/09 at 2:26 pm

BB,

Replace European with Jew and you’d blend right in with Stormfront.

That website is more fit for rabid race hatred such as what you offer.

By on 11/7/09 at 7:29 pm

Well written article. Sorry to say that our own politicians, Churches and and our next door liberal neighbors have done all this damage. There will be no reversal unless we go by the thousands to Washington,D.C. and DEMAND total stop to third-world immigration and forced deportations.

Are Whites really up to this task? Are they willing to take time off of work or of doing nothing but complaining to demonstrate or organize anything other than just posting comments? From my long experience I believe that Whites are doomed by their own inaction. Mexican illegal aliens can get together by the hundreds of thousands and march all over the USA and demand amnesty but we cannot find more than 25-75 or 100 people do our own marches!

With Europe, Australia,New Zealand and Canada going dark we owe to ourselves to do anything to save our race and civilization for ourselves and future generations. It’s time to invade Washington.D.C. by the hundreds now,surround the House of Representatives,the U.S. Senate,and the U.S. Supreme Court and scream at those bastards. It’s all legal.

By Allisio Rexon 11/13/09 at 8:07 pm

Are Whites really up to this task? Are they willing to take time off of work or of doing nothing but complaining to demonstrate or organize anything other than just posting comments? From my long experience I believe that Whites are doomed by their own inaction. Mexican illegal aliens can get together by the hundreds of thousands and march all over the USA and demand amnesty but we cannot find more than 25-75 or 100 people do our own marches!

Illegals can do that because the liberal government gives them money so they can sit at home, impregnate their wives and/or girlfriends with more “anchor babies” and listen to their “community organizers” that tell them when and where to meet to protest “unfair or discriminatory practices within the government of the host Country. Below is what happens to illegal immigrants in other Countries, WE should adopt at least ONE of these, please read.

WHAT DO YOU GET …

IF YOU CROSS THE NORTH KOREAN BORDER ILLEGALLY? YOU GET 12 YEARS HARD LABOR.

IF YOU CROSS THE IRANIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU ARE DETAINED INDEFINITELY.

IF YOU CROSS THE AFGHAN BORDER, YOU GET SHOT.

IF YOU CROSS THE TURKEY BORDER ILLEGALLY, YOU SPEND THE REST OF YOUR LIFE IN PRISON!

BUT, IF YOU CROSS THE U.S. BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET:

A DRIVERS LICENSE A SOCIAL SECURITY CARD WELFARE FOOD STAMPS AND, FREE HEALTH CARE!

Oh well sure, that makes perfect sense to me.

Whites are up to this task, but Whites generally can’t just take off on a whim to march for their elected officials entertainment because we have bills to pay and we have to WORK!!!!!!!!

By on 11/14/09 at 9:04 pm

not going to lie i detest somalies. they smell horrid due to their unclean clothing, they dont pay taxes because they say its against their religion, they cannot drive which is due to the fact that many havent even taken a drivers test. all the women look the same due to their garments so one that can take the test takes it multiple times under diffrent names to give to other somalies. i have also personally seen a somali driving down I94 on the wrong side of the street going against 80MPH traffic with police trying to get them to stop. this is all true and something needs to be done. if you bring people with a violent history into your house things are going to get broken.

By CASon 11/17/09 at 9:38 am

Here’s a video of the white idiots getting what they deserve.

http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/2009/11/18/two-arrests-made-in-youtube-assault-video/

Notice how most men who get attacked run and try to avoid further conflict. I think in the South they would behave differently, though I’m not sure.

By on 11/18/09 at 9:44 pm

Most Americans are smarter than to believe your lies =’Thank Goodness’.

Somali refugees came to America to find safety from insecurities of war and subsequent famine and displacement. They are too dignified to collect welfare for the most part.The Majority of Somalis are deligently hardworking often juggling three jobs just to make ends meet while carrying the burdens of adjusting to a new culture. In fact, they are highest employed community in Minnesota of all ethnic minorities. They do just fine and are grateful to be in America. What many long for more than anything is acceptance and mutual respect from members of host community. I understand that you have to be self respecting firstly to extend respect to others so I might be asking a lot of you! Finally, Somalis, Muslims or Christians, or who ever you happen to be, are created by the same God. Fear that God and do good deeds for your sake. gabr

By Gabron 11/21/09 at 12:44 am

“Somali refugees came to America to find safety from insecurities of war and subsequent famine and displacement.”

These conditions were the creation of the Somalis. Why is it any Western nation’s responsibility to take care of them?

“They are too dignified to collect welfare for the most part.The Majority of Somalis are deligently hardworking often juggling three jobs just to make ends meet while carrying the burdens of adjusting to a new culture.”

A pack of lies. The Somali practice sometimes called “welfare safari” is well-documented; they send out younger men to disparate communities to find out where the welfare grass in greenest. That’s how the end up in places like Minnesota or Lewiston, Maine, where, as one of their warlords, er, leaders put it, “It’s cold but the welfare is good.” Lewiston cannot give jobs away to their Somalis. And to what “adjusting” do you refer? They are merely replicating Somalia in the West, expecting us to adjust to them.

“In fact, they are highest employed community in Minnesota of all ethnic minorities.”

I defy you to prove this.

“What many long for more than anything is acceptance and mutual respect from members of host community.”

Poor dears. What have they done to warrant respect? They can always leave if things are so unpleasant. That they do not leave despite their complaints tells you all you need to know about them.

By Cassiodoruson 11/21/09 at 11:29 am

“In fact, they are highest employed community in Minnesota of all ethnic minorities.”

And why should other ‘ethnic minorities’ be the standard for good behavior?

By Canadianon 11/27/09 at 6:37 pm

Great article. Too painful to read it all right away. It agrees with my perception of the state. Insightful comments by Cassiodorus. I hope to read more by Duncan Hengest.

By Old Atlanticon 11/27/09 at 7:47 pm

I have never seen such hate, and unturth information. United states of America is not white man’s country, it is everone’s country. Poeple who could only claim this country are actually not whites, but native poeple, who are not white, so for you to say this is white country, you need to look the history. Your grand grand grand father come here with a boat, and we come here by airplan, there is nothing you can do to us, we will never go back. And stop false information, we Somali’s work hard, go schools and pay the tax. We have more business than any other immigrant, so why don’t you cry like a baby and fuck your self then.. you are full of racist. get over man….

By somali Guyon 12/17/09 at 10:44 pm

“United states of America is not white man’s country, it is everone’s country.”

Says who? Somalis have exactly nothing to do with the creation of the United States, so why should we entertain a Somali’s opinion about whose country it is?

“Poeple who could only claim this country are actually not whites, but native poeple, who are not white, so for you to say this is white country, you need to look the history.”

This country was created entirely by white people. “Native people” had nothing whatever to do with it.

” … we will never go back”

We’ll see. In the meantime, kindly explain why, if Somalis are everything you claim, they can’t create a stable nation they wish to live in, and why we ought to want them setting up another nascent failure here? Why is the care and feeding of any tribe of feckless primitives, including Somalis, our responsibility?

“We have more business than any other immigrant,”

An outright lie.

“And stop false information, we Somali’s work hard, go schools and pay the tax.”

In English, “false information” means an untrue statement. Somalis are in fact prone to crime (of many kinds) and welfare dependance. You do not pay the tax; we pay the tax and you take the welfare.

“so why don’t you cry like a baby and fuck your self then”

You’re a charming little tribesman.

“you are full of racist [sic]”

Au contraire. Somalis are full of racism, as their behavior makes perfectly clear.

By Cassiodoruson 12/18/09 at 5:46 pm

The Somali population has done nothing positive for Minnesota.

I lived in St. Cloud, Minnesota for a few years and it seemed like the population of Somalis in the area was growing every day. It is impossible to go anywhere now in that city without seeing one of them and they have absolutely no interest in trying to fit in or socialize with anyone that is not from their country.

They have taken up a huge number of jobs and businesses that employ them have had problems because the Somalis want to change the rules where they work (insisting on work stoppages for prayer time, refusing to do certain tasks, etc. etc). Many of them are also refusing to learn English and, incredibly, want school teachers to learn how to speak their language so their children can be educated in their native tongue.

To make matters even worse, they converted an old church over by St. Cloud State University into a mosque and are now trying to spread their evil religion to other people in the area.

The country of Somalia is nothing but a giant slum and now these people are quickly turning areas of the United States into the same thing. We need to send them all home.

By whitechristian88on 12/19/09 at 1:27 am

firstly you white people on this website talking trash about immigrants, mainly somalis, should remember that your for fathers were imigrants. It’s actually funny and sad how you pussy white americans think you own america. while in fact it never belonged to you and never will. Besides this country is build by black hands, african hands, so these somalis have every right to take a little from what their black brothers build during slavery for the white americans. i’m actually disgusted by white americans, they almost wiped out the native americans, made slaves of the black people and are still proud of their pathetic country. It actually makes me laugh because i look at these white kids who have a hard time at school get beaten up by black kids and other colored people and as is the norm make it in corperate america and try to make live as hard for them as possible. it would be intereseting to see what would happen to these pathetic white people if african americans actually studied and got into important positions both in politics and media. because that is what you white people is trying to protect because physically you are weaker than the black man, http://whiteamerica.us/cms/images/smileys/smile.gif dont lie, u know it. anyways the reason you lot are so angry and racist is becuase you realised that your little world is being shatterd by reality which is out side usa you are nothing.

By postacommenton 12/21/09 at 5:45 pm

“firstly you white people on this website talking trash about immigrants, mainly somalis, should remember that your for fathers were imigrants.”

So what? How does that oblige us to accept Somalis? They’re undesirable people by any standard, and no sane nation would admit them.

“It’s actually funny and sad how you pussy white americans think you own america. while in fact it never belonged to you and never will.”

What could this possibly mean? America was an explicitly white country by design until the mid-1960s. Of course America was a white nation.

“Besides this country is build by black hands, african hands, …”

Complete rubbish. Blacks provided menial labor of a type barely more advanced that what livestock could accomplish. They didn’t “build” anything.

” … so these somalis have every right to take a little from what their black brothers build during slavery for the white americans.”

1)Somalis have no kinship with the African groups who sold their people into slavery.

2)There is no such thing as a “right” to take anything to which one has made exactly no contribution, and if there were

3)white Americans would be owed a fortune by blacks of North America for the vast sums we’ve spent on their care, feeding and uplift.

“i’m actually disgusted by white americans, they almost wiped out the native americans, made slaves of the black people and are still proud of their pathetic country.”

Should Africans, who lead the world in genocidal warfare and who presently practice slavery, feel bad about those practices? If not, why should they concern contemporary Americans?

“It actually makes me laugh because i look at these white kids who have a hard time at school get beaten up by black kids and other colored people …”

So while you deplore violence, you enjoy seeing white children being victimized by black primitives. This is called “hypocrisy.”

” it would be intereseting to see what would happen to these pathetic white people if african americans actually studied and got into important positions both in politics and media.”

Yes, things would be interesting if blacks were much more intelligent and studious than they actually are. In fact whites have stood by idly while their society has been turned on its head and bled dry in one misguided effort after another to do just what you envision: to remake the black man in the image of the white man. It simply won’t happen, just as African nations have degenerated under black rule.

” anyways the reason you lot are so angry and racist is becuase you realised that your little world is being shatterd by reality which is out side usa you are nothing.”

We are angry because we don’t appreciate our nation being transformed under our feet into a third-world, African-style pesthole. You know, the sort of place Somalis are so eager to escape, but which they recreate wherever they go. Why is that hard to understand?

By Cassiodoruson 12/21/09 at 7:05 pm

Here’s an example of the sort of contributions Somalis are making to our fine nation:

http://www7.sunjournal.com/node/49

By Cassiodoruson 12/21/09 at 8:52 pm

“…firstly you white people on this website talking trash about immigrants, mainly somalis, should remember that your for fathers were imigrants (sic)…”

Our White ancestors were the Founders of this nations, they were not immigrants.

Without the White Founders there would be no USA. The Constitution and Legal System of this country is based on White-created British Common Law.

Blacks did not build this nation. For an example of a nation built by blacks look at any given African country—marked by violence, starvation, economic ruin, anarchy and chaos.

Did you know that Whites, led by the British and only Whites put an end to slavery in the Western World? They had to fight black Africans and Arabs because they wanted to continue the lucrative slave trade.

The United States of America is a reflection of Whites, particularly White Protestants. It was created, founded and built by and for our people and our people only. It is not a ‘proposition’ nation and never was. Whites it seems are the only ones capable of creating civilizations that are orderly, economically viable and safe. Until 1965, this was exactly how the US operated. The 1965 immigration act was designed to flood the US with non-Whites and it has done exactly that.

Let me ask you this: Why is it every wretched, desperately poor refugee and immigrant world-wide wants to live in a society created by evil, hateful, racist Whites? Why can’t they create their own orderly civilizations? Why can’t they create their own technology?

Non-Whites should be grateful to Whites for what WE and WE ALONE have given to the world: First World technology and medicine that has increased life spans world wide.

If you hate us so much, as it seems you do, how about giving up everything WE Whites created—starting with your White-created computer. Next, give up your White-created cell phone, your White-created car, White-created jet travel, the White-created medicine you expect to save your life and that of your loved ones, the White-created comfort in which you live, the White-created freedoms you enjoy.

You’d be living under a rock and starving within a week.

Bon

By Bon From the Land of Babbleon 12/22/09 at 5:33 pm

“…It actually makes me laugh because i look at these white kids who have a hard time at school get beaten up by black kids and other colored people …”

Not so in California where I live.

While you and other racist blacks are busy seeking out The Great White Bigot, Hispanics are ethnically cleansing your people out of their historic rioting areas in Los Angeles. Did you know that Watts and South LA are now overwhelmingly hispanic?

According to Wikipedia, Watts is now 69.7% Hispanic and Jordan High School reports over 70% Hispanic.

Hispanics despise blacks and do not want them in their neighborhoods or in schools with their children and they, unlike Whites, aren’t held down by the government force. Hispanics won’t hesitate to use violence against blacks—and they, unlike Whites, can get away with it.

The LA Times reports:

‘…The largest number of racial hate crimes involved Latino suspects against black victims….Latino gang members who targeted blacks in the Harbor Gateway area of Los Angeles were found with neo-Nazi material and some Latino gangs were forming alliances with White supremacists in prisons to prey on blacks…”

This is from Lee Baca, Sheriff of LA County:

“…We have a serious interracial violence problem in this county involving blacks and Latinos. Latino gang members shoot blacks not because they’re members of a rival gang but because of their skin color.

Furthermore, we have evidence linking inmates who are known as shot callers. The shot caller will often order the gunman to find someone—anyone—who is black and shoot them instead. Gang affiliation does not matter. Only the color of the victim’s skin matters…”

Hispanics are slowly taking over the Southwest and their exploding demographics mean their numbers will continue to rise throughout the US, especially in the south. While this is not good news for Whites it is devastating for blacks who must now compete with other low IQd, uneducated peoples for menial jobs that are becoming scarcer and scarcer due to the ‘hope’ and ‘change’ of the messiah. Employers of all colors overwhelmingly will hire a Hispanic over a black.

“…According to a recent Wall Street Journal story, there’s a ‘new wave’ of race-discrimination cases appearing in the workplace: African-Americans who feel they are being passed over for Hispanics….”

Your own CBC members, including your great leader, support the open borders that are so detrimental to your community, allowing in people groups that don’t want you around and will use violence to see to it that you are eliminated from your own neighborhoods.

Do you ever rise up against your own politicians who consistently vote for and support policies that favor Hispanics at the expense of blacks? NO and Hell NO. You’d rather spend all of your time seeking out The Great White Bigot, crying about the legacy of slavery and White oppression.

What do you think will happen when the Hispanic majority has enough voting power to vote in their own race-based advocates? Do you think they’ll support the black community? Do you think they’ll honor AA policies that have allowed blacks to be promoted far beyond their abilities? Or will they favor their own kind for government AA policies such as jobs, college placements, scholarships, and promotions?

You and your racist advocates continue to blame your poverty, lack of motivation, low IQs, school failure and high rates of violence on The Great White Bigot—meanwhile, hispanics, whose numbers already surpass yours, are busy pushing you out and marginalizing you—and won’t hesitate to use violence to get the point across that you’re not wanted.

Cry me a river.

Bon

By Bon From the Land of Babbleon 12/22/09 at 9:03 pm

Though I am not a Somali I think this article is very racist and biased; all the opinions displayed in this article have the same massage, an unbiased article has opinions and explanations from both sides.

And the FBI is just assuming that the Somalians will attack America; they haven’t done anything yet, have they? And there is NO solid evidence that they will or that they want to and I am not suggesting that FBI should wait till something happens, I say they should get a proof, and by this I don’t mean I approve of them “watching” the Somalians because that’s rude and I believe that that kind of behavior results in the Somalis to dislike us even more. This is America, everybody have freedom of speech and opinion and the FBI stating that “many of them [the Somalians] hold “militant” anti-American views, sympathize with al-Qaeda” is very in-American in my opinion, though I agree that the Somalians sympathizing with al-Qaeda is scary, but then there is no proof and even if there was, its there opinion right? They haven’t hurt anybody; it’s legal to have your own opinions as long as they don’t hurt somebody else. Furthermore, the FBI saying that the Somalians “attend a mosque tied to 9/11” is very disrespectful and demeaning to Islam and Somalis because this promotes the hatred and discrimination against Muslims and again, I think this is one of the reasons Somalis dislike us, and if I were a Somali and there was a mosque that was tied to 911 I would pray in it because its still a mosque, right? And that doesn’t mean that every person that prays there is a terrorist, they are just practicing their religion.

Moreover, they article says that most Somalians aren’t employed, and later on it mentions that hundreds of Somalians have been fired because they demanded so many breaks to practice there religion…see a an explanation there? I am not blaming employers for all of the Somali unemployment but for some.

Also, I do think that the Somalis are being westernized, the whole world is, but, mostly First Nations(indigenous peoples, but that’s another story) and immigrants to North America, and Somalis are immigrants and I support them when they keep there culture and religion by demanding more breaks for praying their three prayers and celebrating ramadan. Also, I support them wanting a no-interest policy on money or whatever it is called…if they weren’t being westernized then why can’t they live the Muslim way? I see nothing wrong with the Somalians wanting to be governed the Islamic way, America is their second country isn’t it? They should feel right at home.Besides, they make up alot of the population so they should have a stronger voice.

As well I think that the author suggesting that Somalis leave America is very racist, this is their second country and they will leave when they want to. And besides, didn’t we colonize America, what if we were asked to leave America? How would we feel, I know that we (with European ancestry) were here for longer than the Somalis have been, however we’re all Americans with the same rights.

And suggesting that the money Somalis send to their relatives in Somalia is for terrorists is very racist too, and there is not prove of that.

Lastly, I think that the Somalians rebelling and harasing others in America is a cause of them being segregated by other people… I am not saying it is right it is just the way they respond to it.

PS. I am not being a hater I am just stating the other side that this article has hid, I would love to read your comments.

PPS. I think the author and whoever else has the same opinions as the author about this article has some very serious problems.

By on 1/27/10 at 2:40 am

Interesting that the critics invariably must start the name calling. Thus, merely to label a statement “racist” is to dismiss it. And when that fails, the multicultists must shout down and even criminalize (“hate speech”) the opposition. All this indicates that the multicult is intellectually bankrupt.

One of the things that any thinking person ought to consider is why, if the multicult’s position is so correct, it must resort to such tactics? The objective observer might note that the race realists have a considerable body of scientific evidence, especially in the realm of genetics and criminal justice statistics, to demonstrate their case. What do the multicultists have to support their side? Name calling. That’s it.

This is one reason I see the race realist position will inevitably gain traction in the long run. Either the truth will out, or civilization will collapse, as it has done so in much of the third world, and those parts of the West that are being assimilated into the third world.

Has Garrison Keilor introduced a cute cuddly Somali family into the Lake Woebegone ecosystem yet?

And will they be “above average”?

By Californianon 1/28/10 at 1:37 pm

“I think the author and whoever else has the same opinions as the author about this article has some very serious problems.”

No you have a problem. When people dont conform with your leftist worldview its usually because they are critical and enlightened. You are apparently neither.

Somalians, like most muslims, choose to segregate themselves. Its prescribed by their religion islam. They simply do not want to integrate with infidels. You need to read up on islam.

“I see nothing wrong with the Somalians wanting to be governed the Islamic way, America is their second country isn’t it?”

You really are clueless. Do you have any idea of what sharia implies? Its totally incompatible with liberal democracy and western lifestyle.

“Moreover, they article says that most Somalians aren’t employed, and later on it mentions that hundreds of Somalians have been fired because they demanded so many breaks to practice there religion…see a an explanation there? I am not blaming employers for all of the Somali unemployment but for some.”

You apparently dont understand capitalism. The somalis arent productive if they are praying half of the day. This means that the companys are losing money. This is not being racist, but an attempt at staying competitive and profitable. Ultimately its about business survival.

Nobody wants to hire somalis, as the are not very productive. And the somalis usually dont have the motivation or skills to set up their own businesses. When welfare benefits are generous, the motivation for working is unfortunately very low. This is the exact same sitution which is unraveling in my scandinavian home country. Somalis are behaving in the same dysfunctional way.

In most western countries, the risks of terrorists attacts has risen sharply in the last couple of decades or so. All caused by a huge influx of muslims. There are therefore rational and informed reasons for fearing terrorist attacts done by members of the the somali community.

I am sorry for you being so extremely naive and ignorant. You need to exchange your retarded multicultural propaganda for some fact based knowledge.

By Jannikon 1/31/10 at 7:49 pm

Jennifer, if we had no Somalis here, we wouldn’t be having this argument, or any of these hurt feelings by Somalis in America, or any danger, real or imagined, coming from them, right?

What benefit provided by Somalis to us outweighs this divisiveness among us that they provoke?

In what country without a large Somali presence is anyone saying, “You know what we really need is thousands, no, tens or hundreds of thousands of black African Muslims from the world’s most notorious failed state to come right here into our country and communities. We’d be so much better off, and we are so hurting right now without them.”

By Irishon 1/31/10 at 8:39 pm

Jennifer wrote, Though I am not a Somali I think this article is very racist and biased.

In your opinion this article is racist. You just say that because it was written by a White person. Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

By Jimmy Stubbleon 2/1/10 at 4:10 pm

I live in MN too and. NONE of the stupid whites that you see talking about how they “LOVE ALL IMMIGRANTS” live anywhere near them. Yeah, try living around the Somalis. Try living around all the blacks we import from IL. Try watching your property values go down and crime rates go up, try having all your crap stolen from blacks in the area. They dont. They just talk about how they LOVE “diversity” yet theyre the FIRST ones who move out further to rural areas as soon as the blacks move in.

There is a great and disastrous disillusion amongst far too many whites. Especially here in MN.

By on 2/1/10 at 10:53 pm

I came across this hate filled article attacking Somalis immigrants in MN. i am not from MN but i did visit there couples of times since i have relatives. I think that it’s a normal reaction to see new immigrants as invaders because of fear of “the others” who u do not share language and culture with u. However, bundling all somalis as welfare leechers, criminals and dirty, is fucking racist.

I have been here since 99, college grad, hold a professional job as an engineer and never been unemployed or lived on welfare. I do pay taxes like any1 else.

USA is the land of immigrants, the difference between u and me is that ur scandanavian grandparents came here 150 yrs ago, while i came in 99.

Btw, mexicans will be largest minority in a decade, so u have live w this diversity.

By ahmadon 2/7/10 at 1:14 am

Ahmad,

Only White countries are being targeted by a massive influx of non-whites. Africa for the Africans and Asia for the Asians, White countries for everyone. You are saying that this is the end of the race problem but what you are really saying is that this is the end of the White problem.

In your opinion we are racist, you only say that because in your profanity/hate filled diatribe you showed your hatred toward Whites. And I bet that these are the same Whites who assisted you in your college and engineering endeavors. You mention Scandinavians and Mexicans. The difference between them and you is they endeavored to adjust to our culture. We did not have to “share their language, culture and diversity.” That you would enjoy all of the benefits that our culture offers and then wish the genocide of it is reprehensible.

By Henry Stantonon 2/8/10 at 8:44 am

@ Henry Stanton

That would be very delightful, if the European states would have the same state of mind as you have, that means Asia for Asians and Middle East for Middle Easterns. However, this has not been the doctrine of European countries, historically speeking, especially not during the expansion of their colonies. Europe and peculiar England, have supported dosens of uprisings, coup d´etas, regime change, etc in the “third world”. So why is European states allowed to nesstle into and interfere in the “third world” economically, poltitically and military; and foreigners from these countries are not allowed to emigrate into “white” countries?

If you bring us shit, we will give you shit back!

So why this hypocrycy? Because I can name a bunch of incidents, were “white nations”, have interferred in other countries affairs, i.e. Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Egypt, Syria, Libanon, Israel, Palestine, Kurdistan, Indonesia, Philipine, Australia, Ethiopia, Marocko, etc…..So this seems not account for “white” people, even though it should since you “white” people are one of the main factors behind the massive inflow of immigrants. Do you know who to thank? Thank the European collonies for their contribution to the massive inflows of immigrants from less developed countries….

Consider Iraq, a country that was created by the British authorities, with no consideration of the ethnic gruops living in the country. They gave a small minority all the political and military power they needed to oppress other ethnic groups. And this oppression contributed to the displacement of the ethnic groups in that country, shia and kurds fled to neighboring countries ,because of the disriminating policies of the iraqi regime.

And after approximately 80 years was it time for a new round of coloniasation, which led to mass immigration to neighboring countries; nearly 4 million of Iraqs 27 million inhabitants fled the country (for what? Because of Oil?)

By Monsteron 2/9/10 at 7:37 am

Monster,

The principals that you speak of are not true conservative ideals consistent with our founding philosophies.

George Washington - The great rule of conduct for us, in regard to foreign nations, is in extending our commercial relations to have as little political connection as possible

John Quincy Adams - America] goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own. She will commend the general cause by the countenance of her voice, and the benignant sympathy of her example. She well knows that by once enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication, in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy, and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standard of freedom.

Thomas Jefferson - No one nation has a right to sit in judgment over another.

And yes, Monster, you are right, it is whites who have violated these principals and it is whites who are giving our country away. Historically has there ever been a leader praised for betraying his own peoples?

I can only hold to my belief that what is good about Whites will win out over what is bad. To quote one more leader “I still believe in that shining city upon the hill”.

By Henry Stantonon 2/9/10 at 9:52 pm

Born and raised and still living in Mn. Most of the articles facts may sound racist but then you are calling the facts racist and not the writer facts are facts. they are indeed factual..Star and tribune article revealed millions that was traced to be given to terrorist from muslums MN from unbank and money transfer storefronts .The crack stacks used to be buildings a b c d e f Mcnight building and chase buildings.The whole complex is a shit hole. It used to be a thriving complex.. Certain blocks and nieghborhoods have turned into shit holes. There is constant flow of fraud investigations at the county welfare. There is infighting between tribes some are assimulating some are not. Those with one wife and kids are the ones that I notice to become responsible contributors to society, they are the ones moving from the shitholes gaining education, employment status etc. The second generation may assimulate better.. The Violence is apart of the character make up this is true, educators have reported this,counselors young boys believe they have physical rights over girls and thier own mother.. I watched at the airport as many were taken from the taxis and arrested for visa and green card issues,non compliance and in our country illegally .If you can send one man to the moon ,why not send them all.Minneapolis did indeed open the flood gates as did seatle wa quebec canada ohio too.

By Dknoxon 2/12/10 at 12:53 am

YOU GUYS ARE BIGOTS…WE WOULD NOT BE IN AMERICA …IF YOU GUYS DIDNT RAPE OUR COUNTRY TO DEATH…AND YOU WHITES GO BACK TO EUROPE…THIS LAND BELONGS TO NATIVE AMERICANS…AND YOU PUT THEM ON RESERVATIONS…AND THEN U COME TO AMERICA WITH NO DOCUMENTS…YOU GUYS SHOULD BE DEPORTED…I BET THE NATIVE AMERICANS WOULD RATHER HAVE SOMALIS IN AMERICA THAN WHITES…I KNOW I WOULDN’T STAP THEM IN THE BACK..WHILE THEY ARE TEACHING ME HOW TO PLANT CORN…LOOOL….BY THE WAY YOU GUYS HAVE TO ADMIRE THAT WE STILL BELIEVE IN OUR RELIGION…YOU GUYS SAY YOUR CHRISTIAN AND YOU SAY BAD RACIST COMMENTS…YOU GUYS ARE WEAK AS INDIVIDUALS…AND MORE COWARDLY AS A GROUP…YOU COME UP WITH THESE RACIST MENTALITIES THAT YOU GUYS HIDE IN YOUR CLOSET…BUT WHEN YOU SEE A SITE LIKE THIS ….YOU LET YOUR GROUP THINKING GET THE BETTER OF YOU…YOU GUYS CAN HATE US.. ALL YOU WANT…BUT YOU KNOW…IF THEY’RE WERE NO BLACKS, JEWS, SOMALIS, MEXICANS…AND THEIR WAS ONLY WHITE PEOPLE..YOU GUYS WOULD BE KILLING EACH OTHER…IT WOULD BE PROTESTANT AGAINST CATHOLIC…BY THE WAY…WHY DO UR PRIEST TOUCH LITTLE KIDS….I JUST HAD TO ASK…CAUSE THATS NOT IN YOUR BIBLE…LOOOL…RACIST REDNECKS…

By USAMAon 2/12/10 at 8:47 am

To Usama,

I think your CAPS button is stuck. Sorry you are having trouble it might be because the keyboard was invented by a White guy.

IF THEY’RE WERE NO BLACKS, JEWS, SOMALIS, MEXICANS…AND THEIR WAS ONLY WHITE PEOPLE..YOU GUYS WOULD BE KILLING EACH OTHER

Usama you need to rent some “Leave it to Beaver” DVDs. Things were pretty nice when I was a kid in the 60s. Was everybody killing each other? Let me think…. No I don’t remember that.

AND YOU PUT THEM ON RESERVATIONS…AND THEN U COME TO AMERICA WITH NO DOCUMENTS

We put them on reservations before we came to America? That’s why we didn’t need documents we had made reservations!

I KNOW I WOULDN’T STAP THEM IN THE BACK..WHILE THEY ARE TEACHING ME HOW TO PLANT CORN…

That one is actually pretty funny!

WHY DO UR PRIEST TOUCH LITTLE KIDS….I JUST HAD TO ASK…CAUSE THATS NOT IN YOUR BIBLE

Mark 10:13 And they were bringing unto him little children, that he should touch them

By Jimmy Stubbleon 2/12/10 at 6:46 pm

To Californian, I didn’t throw the word ‘racist’ in my comment just because I felt like it or because I had no other argument. I did because it IS racist, how can hating on a group of people from a certain ethnic not be racist? And don’t say its freedom of speech because when a person is practicing their freedom of speech shehe has to make sure they aren’t violating somebody else.

And Jannik, 1) ‘’No you have a problem. When people dont conform with your leftist worldview its usually because they are critical and enlightened. You are apparently neither.’’ Could you further explain this because I am completely lost (and I am not being sarcastic so please elaborate.)

2) ‘’Somalians, like most muslims, choose to segregate themselves. Its prescribed by their religion islam. They simply do not want to integrate with infidels. You need to read up on islam.’’ Muslims do not segregate themselves from others, if so how come my quite few of my niece’s are friends muslim? And don’t say that they are too young so they don’t segregate themselves from others, they actually aren’t kids; they go to collage. And how do you know that segregating themselves is prescribed by the Quran? Did you read the actual Quran or some translation or you just surfed the internet? How do you know it (the translation or wiki) hasn’t been written by someone who just hates muslims for no reason and wants them to look bad? People could lie in books and in the internet too you know.

3) Me: “I see nothing wrong with the Somalians wanting to be governed the Islamic way, America is their second country isn’t it?” Jannik: ‘’You really are clueless. Do you have any idea of what sharia implies? Its totally incompatible with liberal democracy and western lifestyle.’’ Again how do you know that sharia is incompatible with liberal democracy? Did you read the Arabic version (the real one)? Another thing that proves that muslims belive in liberal democracy is that Somali is not a Princeton or a kingdom so they elect their leader. And so are Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, Egypt and ect.. And what’s wrong with the Somalis going with Sharia thus against the western lifestyle? The western way of living isn’t the best or only one, so why not go with another lifestyle? And don’t even bother saying that that would subsidy women’s rights because that’s not true. Besides, we (with European ancestry) came to North America and brought with us our way of life, why can’t Somalis do the same? Their religionway of lifelifestyle isn’t less important than ours.

4) ‘’You apparently dont understand capitalism. The somalis arent productive if they are praying half of the day. This means that the companys are losing money. This is not being racist, but an attempt at staying competitive and profitable. Ultimately its about business survival.’’ I do understand capitalism. And their prayers doesn’t take all say, they would be more productive if there are more breaks so they can pray but longer hours of operation so it would make up for the breaks. This way the company isn’t losing money. Even if there are some non-muslim workers they don’t have to take breaks so they can go home earlier. As for the manager shehe could suck it up because the over time working to make up for the breaks isn’t more than half an hour . Or a muslim manager could be hired so shehe would leave the same time as the muslim workers. 5) ‘’ Nobody wants to hire somalis, as the are not very productive. And the somalis usually dont have the motivation or skills to set up their own businesses. When welfare benefits are generous, the motivation for working is unfortunately very low. This is the exact same sitution which is unraveling in my scandinavian home country. Somalis are behaving in the same dysfunctional way.’’ That’s a racist comment right there. And even if most of it is true you can not generalize. And what makes you know all this about Somalis? Are you Somali? Are you some expert on Somalis? Do you spy on them like the FBI do? Earlier you said that Somalis ‘’ choose to segregate themselves’’ if so how do you know so much about them if you’re not associated with them? And I think you are so jealous that Somalis have benefits such as welfare and you don’t that you hate them.

6) In most western countries, the risks of terrorists attacts has risen sharply in the last couple of decades or so. All caused by a huge influx of muslims. There are therefore rational and informed reasons for fearing terrorist attacts done by members of the the somali community.

Only a small portion of muslims beleive in terrorism (and these ones have been taught the twisted version of Quran), and ‘terrorism’ isn’t the right word for it, ‘self-defense’ is more like it. They believe that when we (Americans) go into their countries starting war, using ‘were trying to achieve fairness and help people’ but instead killing innocent civilians and stealing their natural resources such as oil (although I believe that’s not always the case), they believe we are talking over their countries (colonizing) their country so they want to do the same to ours. However, this is America, nobody can get even and start war so they terrorize. I don’t agree with 911, I would have understood more if they bombed the white house. Also, even though this is out of topic, what makes you so sure that Osama bin laden or muslims were responsible for 911, president Bush declared that Osama was responsible for that 17 mins after the plane hit the twin towers, how does that make sense? And if Bush knew earlier why didn’t he evacuate the buildings? That’s because he didn’t know, however, he knew that the citizens would be frustrated with him so he had to blame it on somebody.

7) ‘’You need to exchange your retarded multicultural propaganda for some fact based knowledge.’’

I could say the same for you for all your opinions and ideas, and could you specify what “retarded multicultural propaganda’’ I need to change?

Irish, you said ‘’ if we had no Somalis here, we wouldn’t be having this argument, or any of these hurt feelings by Somalis in America, or any danger, real or imagined, coming from them, right?’’

So you want America to be free of Somalis? Well that’s never going to happen, so such it up. Again this is racist because America is for everybody.

2) ‘’ What benefit provided by Somalis to us outweighs this divisiveness among us that they provoke?’’

Uhm..let me see, they pay taxes and promote multiculturalism. And they have jobs so they support our economy.

3) And can you explain ‘’ In what country without a large Somali presence is anyone saying, ‘You know what we really need is thousands, no, tens or hundreds of thousands of black African Muslims from the world’s most notorious failed state to come right here into our country and communities. We’d be so much better off, and we are so hurting right now without them.”

And why are you being racist? Why are you generalizing that all muslim African countries are notoriously failing? What about Algeria, Djibouti, Egypt, Libya, Morocco, Sudan, and ect.? And just because most African countries have problems doesn’t mean they aren’t going to be solved.

Jimmy Stubble, You wrote: ‘’ In your opinion this article is racist. You just say that because it was written by a White person. Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.’’

I AM white, though I prefer the term with European ancestry. So how can this be right? I am white so does this make sense?

By on 2/13/10 at 7:49 pm

Jennifer wrote, “I am White”.

This makes you even more anti-white. You should stop hating on yourself. On the outside I imagine that you are a beautiful person.

It’s not your fault.

By Jimmy Stubbleon 2/14/10 at 4:58 am

Jimmy, how does me saying that I am white makes me more anti-white? And how does that make me hate on myself? And please be proper and don’t give me complements, I am younger than you think, believe me.

Also I am very sorry everybody that my last comment isn’t very readable. I just had so much to say and I couldn’t wait to comment so I didn’t edit my work. Please let me know if you want me to post the edited version.

By on 2/14/10 at 11:07 pm

Jennifer,

To answer your question I first have to post some links.

In 1950 Whites were 89.5 of America’s population.

But if immigration were to merely slow, rather than stop, non-Hispanic whites, who now account for nearly two-thirds of the population, would become a minority by 2050, according to the projections released Wednesday. If the pace of immigration increases, that benchmark could be reached as early as 2040 http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/18/us/18census.html

In 1950, whites were 28 percent of world population and Africans 9 percent, a ratio of three-to-one. In 2060, the ratio will remain the same. But the colors will be reversed. People of African ancestry will be 25 percent of the world’s population. People of European descent will have fallen to 9.8 percent. http://vdare.com/buchanan/080501_population.htm

If we were a spotted owl someone would be investigating why the population is diminishing.

Please consider the following questions.

  1. We see Whites everywhere helping people in the world (Somalia, Katrina, Live Aid, disasters, etc.) When we become a minority do you think this can continue and how will we be treated by the majority?

  2. Do you support Whites being made a minority in America? If you do, would that not make you anti-white?

  3. In your posts above you render every break to the Somali point of view but none to Whites? Why is that?

  4. Google Black organizations and note the variety and amount. Now google White organizations. Why such a difference?

  5. You come to a site called White America and complain that the viewpoint is from a White outlook. I’m sure that you also go to ethnic websites and complain about their viewpoint? No, probably not. That is an attitude that you only display to your fellow whites.

By Jimmy Stubbleon 2/15/10 at 1:15 pm

To answer your questions Jimmy,

1) I don’t think when we become minority we will be helping other nations because they will be already helped thus in the U.S.A (that’s why we will be minority). And we will be treated fairly well by most people but if we keep accusing people of things that we have no prove of. For example, accusing muslims of being terrorists without having any proof, we will be treated badly. Also, the statistics of the population of the U.S.A in the future could be false because, we helped and refuged people from war torn countries and these countries could be safe in the future so why wouldn’t people who were originally from there go back? I am not saying that they will all go back to their home countries but I think most will.

2) I don’t really care what race is the majority or minority, America is everybody’s home. We are all immigrants and we all came here seeking a better life, even the natives.

3) I am not expressing the white point of view because it is already presented in this article and in the comments too but the Somali one is hidden. I also like a challenge.

4) There’s the same amount of black and white organizations.

5) Like I said the Somali point of view is hidden that’s why I am expressing it, also didn’t you ever think that when a person googles Somalis or MN this article would be there? And that person will have a negative point of view of MN and Somalis and not move to MN, then the thing you fear will happen; the Somalis will be the majority. Also, even if people move to MN they will hate Somalis and the Somalis will hate them in return, and this will create more problems. And you’re right I don’t go on other websites and express my opinion but that’s because I just started doing this. Know any good websites? However, you are wrong I always express my opinions regardless of who is around me, I have gotten in trouble for that so many times but I wont stop, because if I do I’ll just feel fake. ,

By on 2/15/10 at 8:29 pm

rhayat1,

you wrote

”So about 40,000 of us white and Jewish men have decided to move to Somalia and take advantage of the situation by marrying young Somali women.”

This will NEVER happen! And how do I know that you might ask? Because I am a Somali woman myself. This goes against our religion. Men can marry muslim,jewish and christian women only. Women can marry muslim men only. Thats because the childchildren are going to be the relegion that their father was. Some might say thats sexist, but let me ask you something, when a child has the same last name as her or his father, isn’t that sexist too? Some people might argue that Islam is a sexist relegion, but before you go on judging let me ask you,Isn’t it sexist that there were no women pastors in the past while Islam had women imams since the beginning of islam? Isn’t it sexist that the united states never had a woman as a president? While pakistan or Afghanistan (I can’t remember which one it was) had a woman as a president?

you also said

”We will make ourselves at home in the houses that Somalis built, confiscate a portion of the crops that Somali farmers grow, and stake out a territory of our choice in Somalia. We’ve decided to follow the Jewish religion, and we fully expect the Somalis to respect our ways and to accommodate us. There’s no reason to suspect that Somalis would object to our presence or our lifestyle, is there?”

That wont happen either because (sorry) nobody wants you there and nobody is going to allaw this to happen. It is true that we somalis fight but when we have somebody in our territory we will unite and kick them out. Do you remember what happened to the american soldiers by somali civilians? Do you remember when the french went in somalia and they were given 24 hours to leave the country or the people of somalia would take care of them? Didnt you hear what happened to the British couple a few weeks ago?

By on 2/18/10 at 1:05 am

Jennifer,

Are you actually Somali? Because otherwise you are pulling me leg or are extremely anti-white. You want Whites to hide in a corner. You should be proper.

By Jimmy Stubbleon 2/20/10 at 7:44 pm

Jimmy,

Does Jennifer sound like a somali name?? I can’t be anti-white because I am white. And I didn’t say I want whites to hide in the corner, all I’m doing is expressing the other point of view of this issue. I believe that all races are equal especially in North America, and that the U.S. is everybody’s country not only ours. This article is so unbelievably racist that it sounds like it was written in the 1800s.

By on 2/21/10 at 6:31 am

Does Jennifer sound like a somali name??

Not everyone uses their real name on here, does Jimmy Stubble sound real??

I can’t be anti-white because I am white.

That doesn’t make any sense. Can someone not be Anti-American because they are an American citizen?

I believe that all races are equal especially in North America.

Why especially in North America? If all races are equal then wouldn’t they be equal everywhere?

The U.S. is everybody’s country not only ours.

Do you believe that about every other country? Or only that White majority countries are for everyone?

By Jimmy Stubbleon 2/21/10 at 2:07 pm

Jimmy,

I am using my real name, thats what I meant. And my real name isn’t a somali name. And yes, a white person could be anit-white, but I am not. I am proud of being white and I don’t like the idea of a person being anti their race or relegion or gender because I think instead of complaining that person could try to embrace their race and slove it problems, however, thats my opinion and I don’t expect everyone to like it or agree to it. And I believe all races are equal everywhere but in north america that idealogy is more promoted. And I believe that for every country but sadly thats not the way it works now.

By on 2/21/10 at 9:33 pm

Ok, Where I live, white people feel the same way you people feel about Simali people to Mexicans, I think that there are some people that are just straight up racist but others have a reason to feel the way they do. Like maybe they witnessed a simalian crime or maybe they heard about something that happened. But why does that give them a reason to think ALL people from another country are like that? I am going to use an example, here there are a lot of gansters majority being Mexican. Well because of the Mexican gangs people think all Mexicans are that way and that is not the way it is at all. Because of the crimes the Simalis have done in Min. people think ALL simalians are like that. I’m sure there are a lot of bad simalians and trying to bring their shitty filthy ways to America BUT there are some people trying to get a better life and trying to get away from the bad things in their country. There are ladies that have loads of kids and they know they can’t support them they just take advantage of the government, I think that is just messed up! Asian’s do that Mexican’s do that Simalian’s do that and Guatemalen’s do that. BUT not every immigrant takes advantage of these privlages! There ARE immigrants that come to work there ARE immigrants that don’t take advantage to screw the system!!! BUT people only talk about the BAD things. I think that’s whats wrong with the media thats what influences people to have stereo-types and leads people to believe all people from other countries are screwing up America. There are some Americans that do bad things too well, why don’t the white people think that they are all like that?

By Adelleon 2/27/10 at 9:11 pm

So many comments, so little time…

The real issue is this: does the United States have the right to say who can and can not cross its borders? Because if the USA is for everyone, then we might as well open borders, and grant citizenship (as well as full welfare benefits) to the entire world. And expect the USA to double and triple its populace, and perhaps end up resembling South Africa.

We might ask why so many people want to move to the United States, given that it is a “racist” country. I would think that all these third world migrants would want to move to such rainbow nations as Zimbabwe, where there are no whites who will discriminate against them; or if they must migrate to the New World, then give Chavez’s Venezuela the benefits of their cultural enrichment. But one suspects this is the real agenda behind the opening of the borders to mass migrations from the third world: to destroy the concept of American (and European) sovereignty and replace it with a globalized world order. And the Somalis are one more set of pawns here.

To Californian, I didn’t throw the word ‘racist’ in my comment just because I felt like it or because I had no other argument. I did because it IS racist, how can hating on a group of people from a certain ethnic not be racist?

Please note that the anonymous poster can only go about repeating the word “racist” like a broken record. But let me ask this: why is “racism” wrong? It would seem that if “racism” can defend the frontiers and protect the sovereignty of first world countries, then perhaps racism has its positive side.

Also please note that it is considered perfectly legitimate to hate white peoples: take the campaign of vilification against white South Africans during the apartheid era and, for that matter, against Americans who today try to uphold their country’s sovereignty in the face of third world invasion.

And don’t say its freedom of speech because when a person is practicing their freedom of speech shehe has to make sure they aren’t violating somebody else.

A typical Orwellian multicultist type of anti-statement. Free speech is free as long as the speaker makes sure they are saying only PC words. But what if one chooses to say something that is “violating somebody else” (whatever that might mean)? Time for the midnight knock on the door and rubber truncheons?

Americans have every right to say what they want to say. If you do not like this, well then I have a word for you: it’s called “Traitor.”

And now for the cheap shots:

If you bring us sht, we will give you sht back!

Then you admit that this is a race war against white people, not the cultural enrichment that the multicultists claim mass migration to be? Glad to see you being so honest.

I have been here since 99, college grad, hold a professional job as an engineer and never been unemployed or lived on welfare. I do pay taxes like any1 else. USA is the land of immigrants, the difference between u and me is that ur scandanavian grandparents came here 150 yrs ago, while i came in 99.

Then why do you post like a teenager text messaging fershure omg LOL?

By Californianon 2/28/10 at 3:48 am

Californian,

How many times do I have to repeat myself for you to undrestand? I call this article racist because I feel it is, not because I have no other argument. And what else am I suppose to call it? Freedom of speech? No,I wont because it isn’t. When a person is hurting somebody else while expressing their opinion isn’t freedom of speech. Its called bullying. And I am not a traitor; I belive in freedom of speech, I just think that everybody should express their opinions BUT concider other people’s feelings. Isn’t that what america is all about, having freedoms and rights but also having responsiblities. And how can you say being racist is okay? Do you know how many people in the past and still now get hurt by racism?

By on 2/28/10 at 11:46 pm

Jennifer (AKA The Speech Police),

All we are saying is give Whites a chance.

Your comments hurt my feelings and you should stop the hate.

In your opinion this article is racist. You just say that because it was written by a White. Anti-racism is code word for anti-white.

In those wretched countries where a man cannot call his tongue his own, he can scarce call anything his own. Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech.

“Benjamin Franklin”

By Paul Bunionon 3/6/10 at 6:32 am
In your opinion this article is racist. You just say that because it was written by a White. Anti-racism is code word for anti-white.

Jennifer,Paul Bunion is abosolutely correct. Anti-racist is just code for anti-white. You need to try to bypass the leukophobic short-circuit that has been introduced into you brain through years of indoctination by televison and Marxist teachers into your reasoning, if you could, you would see this article, indeed thsi whole site and movement is predicated on logic and racial realism, not “racism.” My suspicion is, that you would call anything written by whites that does not tow the self-hating line and whose author is not subservient to non-whites as “racist.” What you need to understand is that to agood may of us, you and your ilk may just as well ne shouting “heretic” or “witch” at us. We see you as fantical followers of an oppressive state religion that seeks to destroy anyone who comes to a reasonable, logical conclusion that you disagree with. The problem with your kind, this has always been the problem with your kind of fanaticism, is that you resort to intimidation as soon as someone pokes holes in your weak arguments.

By pan tadeuszon 3/7/10 at 9:09 am

Mass illegal immigration is trashing much of the southwest USA, and I have seen this personally. Many Americans who live along the border with Mexico are seeing their ranches and farms being trampled, as well as suffering increased crime rates, and enduring the closing of emergency rooms, all the direct result of mass migration from the third world. Then there is the general lowering of wages of American workers and the destruction of labor unions, engendered by mass illegal immigration.

What do you have to say to Americans who are being hurt physically (not because of “offensive” speech on a blog) because of these aliens? Are they simply to surrender their country because someone will call them a “racist” if they dare resist?

And what do you propose doing about this situation?

I call this article racist because I feel it is, not because I have no other argument.

Then what other arguments do you have? Are you saying the USA should open its borders to all third world migrants? Should the American government, perhaps, send airplanes to Africa to move the entire population here to the USA?

What impact do you suppose that would have?

And what else am I suppose to call it? Freedom of speech? No,I wont because it isn’t. When a person is hurting somebody else while expressing their opinion isn’t freedom of speech.

Whites are routinely attacked on college campuses and in the media via leftwing speech. Is it ok to hurt Whites via speech? Do you think that Susan Sontag was right to say that white people are the “cancer of humanity?”

Would you censor Marxists, since Marxist governments and terrorists have murdered tens of millions of people over the last century? Or do Marxists get a free pass?

I belive in freedom of speech, I just think that everybody should express their opinions BUT concider other people’s feelings. Isn’t that what america is all about, having freedoms and rights but also having responsiblities.

In other words, you want to censor anyone who dares to dissent with you. Do you support jailing people with whom you might disagree?

And how can you say being racist is okay?

If “racism” can defend the American people against mass illegal immigration, and the crime and squalor that mass illegal immigration bring, then perhaps there is a positive side to “racism.”

Do you know how many people in the past and still now get hurt by racism?

Why don’t you give me the number. Then I will compare it with the number of people who have been killed, imprisoned and dispossessed by the PC. We can start with Whites who are being ethnically cleansed in southern Africa. Or are attacks on White farmers in Zimbabwe and South Africa OK with you?

We might look at the bigger picture of how “anti-racism” is being used as a bludgeon to break down the frontiers of first world countries and to move third world populaces into them—where they bring the various pathologies of the third world, as the article so rightly describes.

Look at the bigger picture: do you seriously want the USA turned into another Mogadishu?

By Californianon 3/7/10 at 4:44 pm
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